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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/6/2008 1:32:58 PM
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colliefan
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Wonder if he interviews John Trevolta and those in Hollywood who are Scientologists? Does he cover the history of those who were killed in the name of Atheism? Probably not.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/8/2008 1:26:52 AM
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Thessa
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The movie actually looks very funny from what I've seen. It's not an hour and a half of him bashing religion. He interviews some interesting people. I don't think he interviews one Atheist in the entire movie. Not from the clips I've seen. And if you compile all the clips I've see I've nearly seen the entire movie. He talks about some interesting things. Some things that I think religious people would agree with him on even. Like the commercialisation of religion. He went to the "holy land" and the supposed birth-place of Jesus and said it was more like a mall than anything else. So I think a lot religious people can agree with it. Isn't that why Jesus got full-on mad and threw tables over in the temple, because he was angry at the commercialisation of religion? So I think if any religious person were to watch this movie they'd probably want to throttle Maher in some scenes but they'd also find themselves agreeing with him in other scenes.
Spoken like a true atheist.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/8/2008 1:27:57 AM
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Thessa
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Wonder if he interviews John Trevolta and those in Hollywood who are Scientologists? Does he cover the history of those who were killed in the name of Atheism? Probably not.
No they always seem to miss that part. Wonder why?.....Hmm.
It would destroy their whole 'perception'.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 8:38:41 AM
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Bob_George
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The movie was already been shown at like the Toronto film festival and stuff and WOW, the response is incredible. It's already got an 80% rating at Rotten Tomatoes. This is what they are saying about it...
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In a string of frank, often hilarious but always well-considered conversations with various Christians, Maher incisively asks them exactly what skeptics always ponder about religion in general and Christianity in particular.
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As a piece of agitprop op-ed filmmaking, Religulous is often brilliant. It's definitely hilarious, sometimes to the point of leaving me wheezing and giggling.
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Religulous is a funny, debate-provoking movie that dares to question fundamental beliefs that have been foisted on societies in order to enable brutality and prejudice in the name of a higher power.
Btw, here's the trailer:
http://www.lionsgate.com/religulous/
I think this will be a big movie. Not just because it'll be a comedy hit but because it'll P so many people off. This is the kind of movie where when it opens in a small town the local churches will protest outside the theatre. I can't wait to see it. I think it'll be very interesting.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 10:00:36 AM
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Tracy , what part of your theology says that Christians are supposed to look good?
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 10:42:37 AM
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They think they are hip, cool and to me they are worse than the people that live south.
Tracey,
You have a problem.
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But some Christians just make it look bad.
Do we defend ALL of Christianity?
Yes some people who profess to be Christians make Christ look bad.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 11:09:25 AM
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They think they are hip, cool and to me they are worse than the people that live south.
Tracey,
You have a problem.
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But some Christians just make it look bad.
Do we defend ALL of Christianity?
Yes some people who profess to be Christians make Christ look bad.
I think Bill Maher is a pretty funny guy sometimes, but I also think his apparent disdain for Christianity is uncalled for. I mean, what have we done to him? Sure, he can laugh at us for being brainwashed into voting Bush into office if he wishes, but I don't think Bush's mistakes can be used to impugn the gospel very easily- something that I think he attacks in addition to the regular foolish herd mentality some liberals claim we engage in. (In the same way that Clinton's chicanery with Monica doesn't mean all liberals are philanderers.)
I wonder if something happened that he's not telling us. Sometimes, people have a personal reason for being opposed to Christianity.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 11:37:20 AM
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I wonder if something happened that he's not telling us. Sometimes, people have a personal reason for being opposed to Christianity.
I would love to know what it was. He has progressed from the Bible is "Jewish Fairy Tales" to outright hatred. And making a movie.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 12:29:03 PM
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P31W
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Sometimes, people have a personal reason for being opposed to Christianity.
And whites and southerners and women.
Sometimes I cannot help but laugh at the hypocracy in some of these threads. When it appears the same person slaps you with insults over and over you cannot help but wonder what their problem is. I think that what I am talking about is pretty odvious to most posters here....then again it may just be us white southern folks who understand the insults hurled at us by people who 'profess' to be loving, caring christians who have the ability to discern what "others" are doing wrong.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 12:38:57 PM
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Isn't that why Jesus got full-on mad and threw tables over in the temple, because he was angry at the commercialisation of religion?
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/9/2008 8:49:29 PM
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Dubya
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Tracy , what part of your theology says that Christians are supposed to look good?
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
You might want to read the first chapter of 1 John.
"If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us." - 1 John 1:8 - 10
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 4:41:57 AM
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Bob_George
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Isn't that why Jesus got full-on mad and threw tables over in the temple, because he was angry at the commercialisation of religion?
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
You seem to follow me around these forums and personally attack me in response to every comment I make. It's just plain weird. Do you go to my profile and check my most recent posts every day or something? You just seem to be following me around the forum. You add nothing to the discussion you just personally attack me. It's kinda creepy.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 4:48:06 AM
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Bob_George
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I think Bill Maher is a pretty funny guy sometimes, but I also think his apparent disdain for Christianity is uncalled for. I mean, what have we done to him? Sure, he can laugh at us for being brainwashed into voting Bush into office if he wishes, but I don't think Bush's mistakes can be used to impugn the gospel very easily- something that I think he attacks in addition to the regular foolish herd mentality some liberals claim we engage in. (In the same way that Clinton's chicanery with Monica doesn't mean all liberals are philanderers.)
I wonder if something happened that he's not telling us. Sometimes, people have a personal reason for being opposed to Christianity.
I don't think Bill Maher is just against Christianity. He's against all religions. He's especially against religious beliefs playing any sort of role in politics. Here's a video where I think if you watch it you'll get a very good idea of what he's all about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IcUumWzue4
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 5:19:07 AM
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Thessa
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Isn't that why Jesus got full-on mad and threw tables over in the temple, because he was angry at the commercialisation of religion?
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
You seem to follow me around these forums and personally attack me in response to every comment I make. It's just plain weird. Do you go to my profile and check my most recent posts every day or something? You just seem to be following me around the forum. You add nothing to the discussion you just personally attack me. It's kinda creepy.
You dont have to follow someone around to know that they dont have it all together in terms of religion or morals.
I think its kinda creepy that you are an atheist. You probably think its kinda creepy that 99% of the people here believe in God.
Alot of things are creepy in this world. Including anyone that would actually try to tie this movie in with what Jesus did. Its not just creepy its disgusting.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 5:35:33 AM
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Bob_George
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You dont have to follow someone around to know that they dont have it all together in terms of religion or morals.
I think its kinda creepy that you are an atheist. You probably think its kinda creepy that 99% of the people here believe in God.
Alot of things are creepy in this world. Including anyone that would actually try to tie this movie in with what Jesus did. Its not just creepy its disgusting.
I can't believe you're defending this guy. This isn't about what I believe in or what you believe in. It's about someone who follows me around the forum and responds to everything I say in the form of personal attacks rather than an actual rebuttal that requires thought. How does that add anything positive to the discussion? Everyone should be against that kind of behaviour whether they be an Atheist, a Christian, a Liberal or a Conservative. It doesn't matter. This kind of trash talk is not helpful to anyone.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 5:42:22 AM
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Thessa
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You dont have to follow someone around to know that they dont have it all together in terms of religion or morals.
I think its kinda creepy that you are an atheist. You probably think its kinda creepy that 99% of the people here believe in God.
Alot of things are creepy in this world. Including anyone that would actually try to tie this movie in with what Jesus did. Its not just creepy its disgusting.
I can't believe you're defending this guy. This isn't about what I believe in or what you believe in. It's about someone who follows me around the forum and responds to everything I say in the form of personal attacks rather than an actual rebuttal that requires thought. How does that add anything positive to the discussion? Everyone should be against that kind of behaviour whether they be an Atheist, a Christian, a Liberal or a Conservative. It doesn't matter. This kind of trash talk is not helpful to anyone.
Now maybe you know a little bit about how people feel about this movie. Bill Maher is trash talking everything Christians love. You dont seem to find that offensive....so whats the problem?
I think that if a person - ANY PERSON - is gonna come on a Christian site and talk about how this movie is in ANY way related to what Jesus did then they really need to be aware of the backlash.
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For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 5:50:34 AM
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Bob_George
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Now maybe you know a little bit about how people feel about this movie. Bill Maher is trash talking everything Christians love. You dont seem to find that offensive....so whats the problem?
I think that if a person - ANY PERSON - is gonna come on a Christian site and talk about how this movie is in ANY way related to what Jesus did then they really need to be aware of the backlash.
I'm just saying that being against the commercialisation of religion is a WWJD thing.
But regardless, the fact that I find this letusreason person so creepy is not because of one remark they made in response to what I said about Jesus being against the commercialisation but because of all the times this person has sought me out to make personal attacks against me. It's just not productive. I'm surprised/disappointed that you are defending a member who engages in such counter-productive behaviour. But whatever.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 6:18:09 AM
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Thessa
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Now maybe you know a little bit about how people feel about this movie. Bill Maher is trash talking everything Christians love. You dont seem to find that offensive....so whats the problem?
I think that if a person - ANY PERSON - is gonna come on a Christian site and talk about how this movie is in ANY way related to what Jesus did then they really need to be aware of the backlash.
I'm just saying that being against the commercialisation of religion is a WWJD thing.
But regardless, the fact that I find this letusreason person so creepy is not because of one remark they made in response to what I said about Jesus being against the commercialisation but because of all the times this person has sought me out to make personal attacks against me. It's just not productive. I'm surprised/disappointed that you are defending a member who engages in such counter-productive behaviour. But whatever.
Well obviously i dont know the whole situation because i dont follow you around. lol
But it states in the rules that if someone is making personal attacks then you should report them. I did just yesterday because someone in the political forum was doing it to me. Thats what you should do if you think they are doing that.
What i was resoponding to was what i read on this page. What you said about Jesus and what they said about what you said.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 7:57:55 AM
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P31W
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Bob George,
The agrument could be made that you are following Christians around. 
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 8:45:16 AM
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Bob_George
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Bob George,
The agrument could be made that you are following Christians around.
I was invited to come here. I didn't seek out this forum. I didn't even know about it until someone told me about it. A Christian Conservative told me about it. I came here to check it out and saw you were all very misguided when it comes to politics and the issues of the 2008 U.S. election, so I thought I better stick around.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 8:55:55 AM
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letusreason
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Isn't that why Jesus got full-on mad and threw tables over in the temple, because he was angry at the commercialisation of religion?
Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
You seem to follow me around these forums and personally attack me in response to every comment I make. It's just plain weird. Do you go to my profile and check my most recent posts every day or something? You just seem to be following me around the forum. You add nothing to the discussion you just personally attack me. It's kinda creepy.
Actually I follow lots of people around, I'm kind of like a puppy that way. You think puppies are creepy then?
However if you want to discuss something with substance, how about backing up your ludicrous eisogetical claim that Jesus was against commericialism in regards to Mathew 21:12. can ya? Are you a Christian? or are you on here just to bash , undermind, and smear Palin? You already made one sexist comment about her.
Like my mom always said don't dish it out if you can't take it.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 11:11:50 AM
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blessedinnyc
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Sometimes, people have a personal reason for being opposed to Christianity.
And whites and southerners and women.
Sometimes I cannot help but laugh at the hypocracy in some of these threads. When it appears the same person slaps you with insults over and over you cannot help but wonder what their problem is. I think that what I am talking about is pretty odvious to most posters here....then again it may just be us white southern folks who understand the insults hurled at us by people who 'profess' to be loving, caring christians who have the ability to discern what "others" are doing wrong.
Hang on here- I often have difficulty understanding subtlety in online forums sometimes, but if you are saying that people have been judgmental or accusatory, I don't think anyone on this thread has made posts that have been that much different than these:
http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_2894815/mpage_6/key_opm/tm.htm#2942825
http://forums.crosswalk.com/m_2567686/mpage_5/key_wrongs/tm.htm#2789087
Personally, I was totally ok with those posts- we were in a lively discussion, as we are now.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 11:20:38 AM
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P31W
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No not some people. It's Tracy. She makes racist remarks too often for comfort. I know she is "trying" to stop. But she is not trying hard enough. I don't think she really want to stop. I have reported her in the past for doing this.
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Nah.... Bill Maher suffers from what I call the NLWS. The Northern Liberal White Syndrome. They think they are sophisticated, smart, witty. They think they are hip, cool and to me they are worse than the people that live south.
To begin with she has a "pet name" for liberals who live in the North and are white.
She has no problem with southern people who are black because her husband is from the south and is black. It's the "white' southerners who are bad...but at least according to her we are not as bad as the white northerns.....
I have read too many of her post. She use to call on the black women in her "hood" to beat up with white women who were with black men. She is the most racist person I have ever run across in my life,,,,,and I live in Mississippi that is suppose to have this terrible reputation for being racist.
Her post insult me over and over again as a white, southern woman.
The sad part is she does not even realize she is insulting people.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 11:35:16 AM
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Nah.... Bill Maher suffers from what I call the NLWS. The Northern Liberal White Syndrome. They think they are sophisticated, smart, witty. They think they are hip, cool and to me they are worse than the people that live south.
To begin with she has a "pet name" for liberals who live in the North and are white. But not for northern black liberals.
Hang on here. I am a northern white liberal, and I can laugh at myself on this one. The fact is that we occasionally go to humorous extents to be politically correct, among other things. (Just ask Bill O'Reilly around the holiday season.) I see it more as a jab at liberalism, rather than an attempt to offend, but that's just my perspective. Maybe we should give tracy an opportunity to elaborate.
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RE: Bill Maher making movie on Religion - 9/10/2008 11:50:28 AM
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P31W
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No she does not need to. She knows what she believes. She has BLASTED me directly before. It's not humor it's her true feelings about whites, women and southerns. She cannot hit it.
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