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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/22/2008 11:15:24 AM
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misaham
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we are going to homeschool the next 4 years- 9th-12th grade!!!
We plan to homeschool through HS, too. DS is in 8th grade this year. She has NO intentions of returning to school! LOL
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/22/2008 9:08:31 PM
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NotaLisa
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ORIGINAL: Auben
It's possible it is anti-homeschool but with the poor writing I would do more digging before jumping to that conclusion.
If the writer is who I think he is, he was educated by the local school system. I'm pretty sure my brother knows him. If my brother still has contact with him I may be able to find out more about what he was intending to say.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/22/2008 9:10:53 PM
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Jenny-Fair
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LOL, does he commicate better verbally than he does in writing?
Regardless of the job the writer did, the quotes from the school officials bother me.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/22/2008 9:26:23 PM
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Parents who do home schooling" before. That really irritated me.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/22/2008 11:08:47 PM
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NotaLisa
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I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "Parents who do home schooling" before. That really irritated me.
I didn't really notice that, I think it sounds a little odd.
I don't know if anyone has read it (besides my mom  ), but my comment is on there now. Of course you might have to register to read that part.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/22/2008 11:29:03 PM
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PatricksPeaches
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Kids who are not "in school" will not become productive citizens. I agree but who's to say Home schooling isn't school? This whole article seems way off.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 12:11:32 AM
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NotaLisa
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Hmm, if you go to http://www.floydcountytimes.com/ and click on "news" on the left side, scroll down a bit and it's the one that says "Local schools giving students ‘no excuses’" my comment is just below the article.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 10:05:19 AM
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misaham
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When I went to this link, it asks you to log in. I ignored that and typed "no excuses" in the search box, then the article comes up without having to sign in.
ETA - I did need to create an account to see the comments. It is quick and free.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 10:23:28 AM
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Sunnymom
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I really don't understand why homeschoolers were even mentioned in that article! And why would they want a drop in homeschooling if it 'isn't about the money, it's about the education'? And pardon me, but telling people if they see a child to call the school board?! That's, like, 1984 extreme.
I accessed the article with (misaham's helpful hint), and the whole thing is devoid of facts, and especially facts in context.
KY law states
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1. “It shall be the duty of each private, parochial, or church regular day school to notify the local board of education of those students in attendance at the school.” KRS § 159.030 (b). Home schoolers need only send in a letter with this information during the first two weeks of school. (“Memorandum, RE: State Regulation of Private Schools,” Gary Bale, Kentucky Dept. of Ed., January 21, 1985).
2. All private and parochial schools must keep an attendance register and scholarship reports in the same manner as is required by law or by regulation of the Kentucky Board of Education of public school officials. “Such schools shall at all times be open to inspection by directors of pupil personnel and officials of the Department of Education.” KRS § 159.040. School officials, however, have no authority to enter home schools, since they are protected by the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. (The Christian Home Educators of Kentucky and the Kentucky Home Education Association agree with HSLDA in their “Best Practice Document” that “the privacy of the home must be recognized and no visit inside the home may be conducted without the consent of an adult resident or a duly issued warrant.”)
So the comment- "Parents that do home schooling need to keep attendance records," Compton said. "There's criteria they have to follow, and many of them are not aware of that." needs context, because in light of the law this statement makes no sense. Private and parochial schools need to keep attendance, but homeschoolers just need to send in a letter stating that they are going to home educate. No other monitoring is required of homeschoolers by KY law.
I agree that if this is about education and not about money, homeschoolers would not have been lumped in with drop outs.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 10:34:27 AM
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misaham
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Hubby went onto the school district website and found the minutes from the meeting where this was discussed. The "Issue Paper" which addresses the new attendance criteria clearly state that this is a budgetary issue. The heading: "Fiscal/Budgetary Impact". This states, "The End of Year average daily attendance will determine the district budget for the 2008-2009.
Although the article in the paper discusses the next couple of school years, the agenda seems to be clearly financial for the school. There is no other impact discussed in relation to attendance other than budgetary.
Here is the link to the minutes. (Page 3 discusses the attendance incentives that will be offered to students.)
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 10:49:13 AM
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misaham
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I just read your comment, "Earthling". Well said. We could probably write pages and pages in response, but you did a good job of hitting your main points. Thanks for sharing with us!
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 12:00:51 PM
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NotaLisa
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ORIGINAL: misaham
I just read your comment, "Earthling". Well said. We could probably write pages and pages in response, but you did a good job of hitting your main points. Thanks for sharing with us!
Thank you, misaham. And thank your hubby for the research, I hadn't thought to look there.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 8:56:46 PM
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sen10tious
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...or the piece was edited with a hacksaw.
LOL Thanks! I needed that laugh.
That was pretty much my impression too. The article didn't make enough sense to know where to begin with the criticism. If I wanted to be snarky, I could say that it is highly probable that it was written by a public school graduate, but I will forego succumbing to that impulse. 
edit to add:
Ah, I just read Notalisa's post #28. It was the bigotry more than the ineptitude that made me suspect it.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/23/2008 9:47:06 PM
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NotaLisa
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I think he went to school with my brother, although my brother is a very good writer. I don't know whether they had the same teachers or not.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/24/2008 8:44:11 AM
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bzirk
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It's junk like this that makes it necessary for us to always be vigilant about being able to homeschool.
My comments, which haven't been approved yet:
This situation is conducive to parental rights being violated (read that: the district is going to overstep their authority). Thankfully there are such advocacy groups as HSLDA (Home School Legal Defense Association). If they don't already know about the district's plans, they need to be notified as soon as possible, and I mean before anything actually happens that violates a parent's rights. They just need to know this is a potential problem.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/24/2008 2:41:26 PM
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NotaLisa
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Thanks for leaving a comment bzirk, hopefully there are more that just haven't been approved yet.
I agree about notifying HSLDA, I just don't know how to go about doing that since I'm not a member. I've thought about joining but didn't really feel the need too. Maybe I should be thinking more seriously about it.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/24/2008 3:41:47 PM
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misaham
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I've thought about joining but didn't really feel the need too. Maybe I should be thinking more seriously about it.
(I just joined. Even if you never need to use them, they use the money to help others who face situations where they are needed.)
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just one comment (and that from notalisa)
She entered her comments under "Earthling".
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/24/2008 9:11:38 PM
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bzirk
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Thanks for leaving a comment bzirk, hopefully there are more that just haven't been approved yet.
I agree about notifying HSLDA, I just don't know how to go about doing that since I'm not a member. I've thought about joining but didn't really feel the need too. Maybe I should be thinking more seriously about it.
I think the newspaper staff and anyone else reading that site who lives in that area needs to see the comments about HSLDA.
Frankly, the school district needs to be run back under their rock.
BTW, I don't think you even have to be a member to give HSLDA a heads up about what this district is doing. But it might behoove you to become a member. It's cheap when compared with the protection it affords you.
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/25/2008 7:50:43 PM
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charity7
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So if my homeschooled kid has perfect attendance does he earn their little cards?? (My kid always has perfect attendance!!)
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RE: Article in my local paper - 8/27/2008 11:25:42 AM
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judii1
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Notalisa,
I tried to leave comments twice. i don't think it worked.
Here is what I found out in a nutshell, the district gets between $8,000-$10,000 per year per kid( so times this by 147 and you'll see why they are screaming~!!!) and the test scores for the high school are below the state average.
When you look at the scores, and you see 80 that's 80 out of 140 and NOT 100!!
WEBSITE http://www.greatschools.net/cgi-bin/ky/district_profile/142#kcct_standards
Scrool down to see high school scores
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