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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 12:08:23 PM
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extra_mile
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This is odd, the movie came out last night and yet we only have one report from anybody who has seen it. I figured we'd have been overrun by glowing reviews this morning.
I also checked the IMDB, only one external review, and it's basically the movie's press release, not a critical review, and again, NO new additions to the User Comments...usually the night of a film's premiere, there are a LOT of new comments added to this page....
Yea, that is odd? I thought there would be many that would see it the 1st day. I had around 10-12 people in my showing, very low, I thought.
I thought all the stuff going on in the news with Money and all would keep some people home, but I thought there would be more seeing it than this?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 3:33:21 PM
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Actually, it was number three at the box office on Friday, which isn't bad in limited release.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 4:02:25 PM
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I wonder if you think Sherwood films and their theology messages are so bad, why would you personally watch the movie at all?
Seems to me you wouldn't get much from something you predetermined you don't like already.
If it doesn't cost me anything, all I'm losing is an hour and a half. And I know the Kendrick brothers, so I figure out of sheer friendship, the least I can give 'em is an hour and a half of my time.
But it does disappoint me that they've chosen to go with such a predictable, unimaginative route with the films they have produced so far. Both of these men are far too mature in their faith to produce pie-in-the-sky tripe like FLYWHEEL or FACING THE GIANTS. And indications seem to make FIREPROOF out to be nothing more than product placement for a marriage help book.
Based on what I know of them, I expected more....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 4:47:13 PM
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I think the movie looks good.
However, as someone who is going through a divorce, I doubt I'll see it.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 6:04:13 PM
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Well, a few more user reviews have popped up on IMDB, which I tend to trust more than critics because these are comments from regular folk like you and me. And most of the reviews are positive.
But for some reason the movie is still only ranking a 3.9 out of possible 10 stars (with 93 votes cast thus far....).
I would still have expected far more input on the IMDB site, especially given the pre-release hype this film has enjoyed in the Christian community...
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 8:44:06 PM
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We went to see the movie and we thought it was great. Mainly the story we thought was the best and felt that Kirk did a really good job in the movie. I think people can relate to things in the movie, because it is reality for many. A few actors in the movie were not the best, but even Hollywood has some highly paid not so good actors. Honestly, we really thought it was great, the audience appeared to like it as well for they all clapped at the end and the theater was close to full. The first two rows were the only empty rows.
A movie worth seeing in my opinion!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 8:50:25 PM
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I wonder if you think Sherwood films and their theology messages are so bad, why would you personally watch the movie at all?
Seems to me you wouldn't get much from something you predetermined you don't like already.
If it doesn't cost me anything, all I'm losing is an hour and a half. And I know the Kendrick brothers, so I figure out of sheer friendship, the least I can give 'em is an hour and a half of my time.
But it does disappoint me that they've chosen to go with such a predictable, unimaginative route with the films they have produced so far. Both of these men are far too mature in their faith to produce pie-in-the-sky tripe like FLYWHEEL or FACING THE GIANTS. And indications seem to make FIREPROOF out to be nothing more than product placement for a marriage help book.
Based on what I know of them, I expected more....
Okay, this explains more about your comments you made.
We went to see it today and we thought it was a great story, because there was a reality to what was happening in their marriage. I explained more on my other post above.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/28/2008 11:32:22 AM
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I saw it and loved it. It contrasts the cultural view of marriage with the biblicaL view. But it was funny,emotional,touching,action oriented,inspiring with a little prosylatizing.
Highly recommend it.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/28/2008 1:50:53 PM
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Saw it loved it very well done. Kirk is no kid, he is ateast 40. It was such a good movie, and I praise God that Kirk laid down his life as ayoung man and is a true believer.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/28/2008 10:14:46 PM
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I do believe that after this one finishes up in theaters, they're no longer going to have an excuse for making movies with volunteers. It's an instant hit, and I'm eager to see what they do next...even though I will never watch this one. Since they've proven there's an audience for these types of movies...I want to see what they can really do.
I've never really seen bad acting as a reason for why a movie was terrible. Most of it lies in the script. There have been many movies with horrific acting that are seen as classics because the script surpassed the limitations of finances.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/28/2008 10:19:16 PM
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I just saw it this afternoon. It really hit me where my marriage is right now. I was in tears by the end and have new hope in what I thought was a hopeless situation.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 9:31:55 AM
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Well, a few more user reviews have popped up on IMDB, which I tend to trust more than critics because these are comments from regular folk like you and me. And most of the reviews are positive.
that's one way to look at it...THOUGH, you'll find "regular people" on IMDB who love the movie FOR THE MESSAGE, and nothing else. Who have seen "Fireproof" and NO OTHER significant movies since watching "Facing the Giants".....Who THINK the way you do. you have no idea who these people are, and don't know if they've even seen the movie!
For critics, it's not their job to be a "cheerleader" for any movie....it's to give an OBJECTIVE review....
before anyone goes spouting off on "Christian bias", with regard to movie critics, take a look on how the OTHER movies that opened this weekend fared with the critics at the Dallas Morning News (critics that I trust....and, that if I am having a tough time choosing between one film or another to see, they help with the decision...OR, help me decide if it's just worth it to wait for the DVD instead of paying $10 for a sub-par movie):
Miracle at St. Anna (C)
Nights in Rodanthe (C)
Choke (C)
The Lucky Ones (C)
The Duchess (B)
Eagle Eye (D)
If "Fireproof" gets even a "C", I can hear the screams of "Christian bias" already....(though, that seems to be the consensus for most of the movies for the weekend)
Hmmm.....I went to the Dallas Morning News website this morning, and there is STILL no review. I know that the film was not available for "advance screening" for critics, but, still not one yet? My initial thought is that the critics at the paper, taking into consideration the "content" of the movie, are just going to "take a pass" on this one....and, to do a factual, true review will not be good for "PR" purposes....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 10:18:11 AM
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I heard on the way in this morning. Number 4 at the box office this weekend. Very impressive showing.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 10:25:58 AM
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kernsfamily, good post. I should have taken that into consideration myself.
I did hear some guys at church yesterday talking about the film, their consensus being that it would entertain Christians, but probably have zero appeal to the world we so desperately wish to reach. I concur with this theory.
Christians entertaining themselves with mediocre entertainment offerings, we've seen it in our music, our television, and now our films. I for one am not proud.
But hey, number 4 for the weekend at the box office....congratulations to the Kendrick Brothers and Sherwood Pictures. Not too bad at all, guys.... 
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 10:27:47 AM
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But hey, number 4 for the weekend at the box office.
#4 on a very weak weekend....yep...better than nothing.....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 10:44:21 AM
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#4 on a very weak weekend....yep...better than nothing.....
You know, I am not quite getting your ongoing antipathy towards this movie. I mean I get that there have been a number of disapointing Christian movies in the past (though, in all fairness, there has been an increasing number of very good ones) but you haven't seen it, and you seem to have drawn all your conclusions from your past experience.I can be as cynical as anyone about the failures of Christian 'art' in modern times, but I don't jump to conclusions.
What gives?
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 11:10:03 AM
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kernsfamily
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#4 on a very weak weekend....yep...better than nothing.....
You know, I am not quite getting your ongoing antipathy towards this movie. I mean I get that there have been a number of disapointing Christian movies in the past (though, in all fairness, there has been an increasing number of very good ones) but you haven't seen it, and you seem to have drawn all your conclusions from your past experience.I can be as cynical as anyone about the failures of Christian 'art' in modern times, but I don't jump to conclusions.
What gives?
I wasn't making a comment about the MOVIE ITSELF....nor "jumping to any conclusions"....
just commenting on the "HOOPLA" over being #4.....and, then commenting on the "reviews" of the movie, or lack thereof....
no...didn't get to go see it over the weekend, as we had planned since a ministry in our church had arranged for our sunday school class to see it for free... (had babysitter issues....)...so, that leaves it VERY VERY likely that we'll wait until early next year for the DVD....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 11:47:18 AM
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My husband and I went to see Fireproof on Saturday with 6 other couples from our church. Neither my husband nor I liked “Facing the Giants”, but we gave Fireproof a chance as the story and message seemed worthwhile to go see. They had to open an additional theater for the 3:50 time we went to because the first one was sold out.
In my opinion it was a movie that can really touch the hearts of non-Christians and Christians. It was very realistic, and I think both Christians and non-Christians can relate to the movie. Was all the acting great? No. There were a few that did horrible, but it was really overlooked when you think of the entire movie and the message. The message gives hope to marriages and it portrayed it very realistically. Kirk Cameron did an excellent job. I really “felt” his character as well as the woman who played his wife. It touched both my husband and I to where we both could very well relate to the characters and the message. I cried throughout the movie. There were many crying in the theater – including men- . There was laughter and cheering as well. My husband and I were still talking about the movie yesterday and the impact it had on us and possibly on other marriages. This is coming from a man who was thinking the movie would not be good because of how he felt about Facing the Giants.
And yes it was #4 in the box office, but it was also #4 with limited release in only 829 theaters. I think that’s pretty impressive! I’m glad we went, and I hope that others on this thread that are skeptical would give it a chance and see beyond what you are thinking of this movie.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 12:26:43 PM
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I'll be curious to see how FIREPROOF does in it's second week of release, now that pretty much it's entire ready made audience has seen it. Will it even be in the Top Ten in a week?
To their credit, to make a movie for a half million bucks and it grosses 6.5 million, it's gonna make a tidy profit. That's one of the advantages of low budget filmmaking....when you win, you win big.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 1:04:54 PM
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Every comment by people who have seen the movie ends up being about "the message" and how great "the message" was. I don't know about anybody else, but my unsaved friends don't give a hoot about "the message". They just want to see a good, entertaining movie. Nobody has said anything about it being entertaining. And Kirk Cameron might be over 40, but he still looks and sounds like he's fourteen.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 1:05:09 PM
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I haven't seen the movie myself, but we got an e-mail from my SIL that my BIL cried during the movie.
And for my Brother-in-law, and ex-Army intelligence officer officer who served in Bosnia and Iraq to cry during a movie (or anytime) is the equivalent of John McCain breaking into 'Singin' in the Rain' in the middle of a debate and tap dancing across the stage.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 1:31:36 PM
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Every comment by people who have seen the movie ends up being about "the message" and how great "the message" was. I don't know about anybody else, but my unsaved friends don't give a hoot about "the message". They just want to see a good, entertaining movie. Nobody has said anything about it being entertaining. And Kirk Cameron might be over 40, but he still looks and sounds like he's fourteen.
First, Kirk Cameron does not look and sound like he's 14 in this movie. He has definitely matured.
The movie wasn't meant to be pure entertainment, so if someone is going for just for pure entertainment, then they are going to the wrong movie. Do these unsaved friends ever want to see a movie with a message? The movie deals with real issues in marriage and real hope. If someone doesn't want to see a movie like this, then I wouldn't push someone to go. There is an entertainment "value" to the movie, but it is much bigger than pure entertainment.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 1:44:02 PM
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Every comment by people who have seen the movie ends up being about "the message" and how great "the message" was. I don't know about anybody else, but my unsaved friends don't give a hoot about "the message". They just want to see a good, entertaining movie. Nobody has said anything about it being entertaining. And Kirk Cameron might be over 40, but he still looks and sounds like he's fourteen.
It was entertaining. For as much as the message moved me, there were scenes where I was just laughing and other scenes that had me on the edge of my seat because it was entertaining. Never once did my attention wander, which my ADD tends to make me do quite often.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/29/2008 1:48:41 PM
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ORIGINAL: uncabeeil
Every comment by people who have seen the movie ends up being about "the message" and how great "the message" was. I don't know about anybody else, but my unsaved friends don't give a hoot about "the message". They just want to see a good, entertaining movie. Nobody has said anything about it being entertaining. And Kirk Cameron might be over 40, but he still looks and sounds like he's fourteen.
It was entertaining. For as much as the message moved me, there were scenes where I was just laughing and other scenes that had me on the edge of my seat because it was entertaining. Never once did my attention wander, which my ADD tends to make me do quite often.
Exactly! I was laughing at many of the scenes. The movie held my attention and the 2 hours flew by very quickly. I've been to many movies where all I did was look at my watch the entire time wondering how much longer I have to endure the movie. Not so, with Fireproof.
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