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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 9:19:23 AM
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SwedishCovenant
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Before 2000 I thought the Republican Party was a fairly decent set of chaps with a few bad eggs, like all large organizations.
The the Bush Gang did their infamous hatchet job on McCain in South Carolina, and I changed my opinion to 'lots of bad eggs but still many decent sorts'.
Now with this canard, my opinion is more one of 'there is no downward limit on how vile, despicable, and clumsy the lies that today's Republicans will try to spread.', and although their may be some decent Republicans left, they are too few and too scattered to hold back the flood.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/07/06/martin-luther-king-jr-was-a-republican/
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 9:22:44 AM
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todd_t
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Dr. King actually went out of his way to clarify that he was non-partisan because he did not want civil rights to be an issue caught up in party politics.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 9:42:22 AM
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djv1255
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Who do you believe the unbiased Huffington post or a niece of Dr. King?
Niece of Dr. King (PDF)
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 9:49:35 AM
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JimboFletch
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It makes perfect sense to Southerners that Rev. King would never have supported the Deomcratic Party.
For non-Southerners and those who choose not to study history, it was the Democratic Party in the South that enacted all those nasty little Jim Crow laws. The Republican Party was the party of Lincoln. Most of you probably have heard of him.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 10:49:26 AM
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Thanx for the link. I had always assumed that MLK Jr. wasn't associated with any party.
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Who do you believe the unbiased Huffington post or a niece of Dr. King?
Niece of Dr. King (PDF)
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 10:53:27 AM
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Jhud
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Before 2000 I thought the Republican Party was a fairly decent set of chaps with a few bad eggs, like all large organizations.
The the Bush Gang did their infamous hatchet job on McCain in South Carolina, and I changed my opinion to 'lots of bad eggs but still many decent sorts'.
Now with this canard, my opinion is more one of 'there is no downward limit on how vile, despicable, and clumsy the lies that today's Republicans will try to spread.', and although their may be some decent Republicans left, they are too few and too scattered to hold back the flood.
Hmmmm...I guess this means that if Republicans are so vile, that would include Dr. King.
And I suppose also Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan, as well as the overwhelming majority of Republicans who supported the '64 Civil Rights Act.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 10:55:24 AM
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These facts are never brought up by the media. They have managed to turn it completely around so that it appears that the Republicans are the party against civil rights. If it hadn't been for the Republicans in the '60s, the civil rights movement might have been crushed by massive opposition led (covertly, in most cases) by the KKK.
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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
It makes perfect sense to Southerners that Rev. King would never have supported the Deomcratic Party.
For non-Southerners and those who choose not to study history, it was the Democratic Party in the South that enacted all those nasty little Jim Crow laws. The Republican Party was the party of Lincoln. Most of you probably have heard of him.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 11:25:48 AM
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huskarine
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MLK would probably be a conservative (i won't say republican)...he would probably condemn the rainbow push coalition, jesse jackson, al sharpton, and black liberation theology because of the inherent reverse racism.
his dream was to get rid of racism in the US. what is racism? promoting one over the other based on race. a very sad reality is that it is going in the opposite direction nowadays.
to be honest, i wrote BO to ask everybody to vote for him for any other reason besides race. if people vote for him because of race, it will only prove racial divide which is disheartening.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 11:28:18 AM
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JimboFletch
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Dr. King's father was a lifelong Republican, but his son never declared an official political affliliation to either party despite voting for JFK in 1960, and LBJ in 1964.
Are you suggesting Dr. King supported the party of Jim Crow, George C. Wallace, and KKK senator Robert Byrd?
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 11:49:18 AM
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djv1255
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Please don't get tied up on whether MLK was a republican or not.
Obama and Dems are going to imply that Obama's speech tonight is next "I have a dream" speech.
A group of black republicans are trying to get across that it will not be the same.
Will the media talk about the black republicans's opinion when they analyze the speech tonight and tomorrow?
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 11:57:06 AM
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huskarine
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^^^I am wanting Alan Keyes to do the same speech and change every phrase or word advocating liberals or dems to conservatives and GOP...do you see how stupid this is???
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 11:57:16 AM
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Will the media talk about the black republicans's opinion when they analyze the speech tonight and tomorrow?
I'd be shocked it they didn't. "Analyze" might be a bit of a strong word for what most of the media does, though. 
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 12:04:57 PM
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I think that the “southern strategy” bears mentioning. It changed the dynamic of the Democratic-Republican divide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Note also the following quote from Ken Mehlman, former chair of the RNC:
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"Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions," and, "[B]y the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 12:12:09 PM
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todd_t
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Are you suggesting Dr. King supported the party of Jim Crow, George C. Wallace, and KKK senator Robert Byrd? Talk about shooting yourself in the foot...
I don't think MLK endorsed any party outright, but did vote for Dem presidential candidates in '60 and '64.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 12:36:34 PM
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Stephanos
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I dont know if Dr King "was" a republican, but I have little doubt that he would be one today. The whole idea of Affirmitive Action is an affront to everything Dr King stands for. In his famous speech he said "I have a dream that one day people will be judged on the content of their character NOT on the color of their skin." The idea of giving someone a job, BECAUSE of their skin color, or a spot in school BECAUSE of their skin color was EXACTLY what Dr King was against.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 12:41:36 PM
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RichLP
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I dont know if Dr King "was" a republican, but I have little doubt that he would be one today. The whole idea of Affirmitive Action is an affront to everything Dr King stands for. In his famous speech he said "I have a dream that one day people will be judged on the content of their character NOT on the color of their skin." The idea of giving someone a job, BECAUSE of their skin color, or a spot in school BECAUSE of their skin color was EXACTLY what Dr King was against.
I'm not exactly a fan of AA either... but, back then at his time, weren't blacks facing a lot of obstacles to even be able to COMPETE with whites at the workplace or in the classroom? Just food for thought.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 12:47:26 PM
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I think that the “southern strategy” bears mentioning. It changed the dynamic of the Democratic-Republican divide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy
Note also the following quote from Ken Mehlman, former chair of the RNC:
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"Republican candidates often have prospered by ignoring black voters and even by exploiting racial tensions," and, "[B]y the '70s and into the '80s and '90s, the Democratic Party solidified its gains in the African-American community, and we Republicans did not effectively reach out. Some Republicans gave up on winning the African-American vote, looking the other way or trying to benefit politically from racial polarization. I am here today as the Republican chairman to tell you we were wrong."
As if people don't try to divide the electorate by race today. Here is a prime example.
“They’re (Republicans) going to try to make you afraid. They’re going to try to make you afraid of me. ‘He’s young and inexperienced and he’s got a funny name. And did I mention he’s black?’"
And another time.
"They’re (Republicans) going to try to make me into a scary guy. They’re even trying to make Michelle into a scary person. Right? And so that drumbeat – 'we’re not sure if he’s patriotic or not; we’re not sure if he is too black.' I don’t know, before I wasn’t black enough..he might be too black. We don’t know whether he’s going to socialize – well, who knows what.'"
What would this guy be like if he was really black in stead of mixed race?
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 1:36:39 PM
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huskarine
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ok...my point was to advocate race as a reason to be absurd. a lot of people are voting because of race which is an atrocity as much as calling yourself a poached egg...
(only problem is that the poached egg is already harmed, but racism has exponential unforeseen damage)
i would have preferred an agenda out there that would promote voting for ANYTHING besides race as a reason.
if you disagree, i will gladly debate...but i wouldn't expect it, unless you believe in racism.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 1:50:50 PM
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Why? Because he's outspoken about Socialist Democrats and their agenda? Because he doesn't pull any punches? He's brilliant!
While he was running for Senate in IL against Obama, Keyes lost what little credibility he had as a candidate (considering the GOP imported him from Maryland at the last minute) when he railed on about the "gay agenda" destabilizing society, and Keyes dodged questions over whether he had a gay daughter.
For the record, he does.
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RE: Martin Luther King Was A Republican - 8/28/2008 1:53:57 PM
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That was before JFK and his brother decided to wire tap Dr. King's phone lines.
At the behest of J. Edgar Hoover, the most paranoid man in American history. Although I agree, the Kennedys could have just shot Hoover down, and said no to the wire taps.
Gee, wire taps. Who does that remind me of?
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And I doubt King knew that Johnson commonly used the N word.
LBJ was a hayseed hick, no doubt.
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