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RE: Halloween 2008 - 8/31/2008 8:59:36 PM
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bluestone
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one year a young mother came to the door with a baby that looked to be around six-eight months old. She had painted whiskers on the baby. Baby in the crook of her arm, a dingy pillowcase in the other. She Looked afraid when she sort of held the baby up and said "trick or treat, she is a little mousy". The lady was sooo thin.
I just stood there for a second, then said I had some other candy, wait a minute. I loaded her pillow case with tuna, ramen noodles, a loaf of bread, peanut butter, and all the candy I had left, and five dollars.
She cried. I cried.
It was the most God filled October night I have ever had. And it was Halloween.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 8/31/2008 9:32:22 PM
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bluestone
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Later I thought about the guy in my old neighborhood who used to put chic tracts instead of candy in kid's bags. The ones with cartoons of priests and nuns burning in hell.
I had a spiritual epiphany that night. It totally changed my thinking on several levels.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 8/31/2008 11:35:08 PM
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bluestone
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I do respect the beliefs of those who feel it is a Satanic Holiday, and choose not to celebrate it.
I don't celebrate Satan on Oct. 31st. I don't worship him, do terrible deeds in his name.
I see no harm in it being a candy and spooky decoration day.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/1/2008 1:08:28 PM
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themoodyexperience
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Later I thought about the guy in my old neighborhood who used to put chic tracts instead of candy in kid's bags. The ones with cartoons of priests and nuns burning in hell.
I had a spiritual epiphany that night. It totally changed my thinking on several levels.
I used to have quite a collection of those...I probably still do, I've just packed them away somewhere.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/1/2008 1:26:32 PM
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bluestone
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I hate chic tracts with a passion. They have probably turned more people off to Christianity than big haired ladies in denim jumpers.
Hey! That's a great idea for a costume!!!
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/1/2008 1:29:56 PM
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MrFribbles
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I hate chic tracts with a passion.
Amen to that.
Have you seen the one's made specifically for African American audiences? *shudder* I don't know what that man is thinking when he writes/draws those things.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/1/2008 1:32:35 PM
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bluestone
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I have seen them. A former pastor used to have a variety he kept in the church hallway for people to take with them. I would grab them up when no one was looking, and hide them under the toilet bowl cleaner stuff in the women's restroom.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/1/2008 1:36:11 PM
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MrFribbles
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A former pastor used to have a variety he kept in the church hallway for people to take with them. I would grab them up when no one was looking, and hide them under the toilet bowl cleaner stuff in the women's restroom.
You've done a mighty work for the Lord. ; D
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/1/2008 3:14:16 PM
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armydude
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A lot of people try the scare tactics when it comes to salvation. Sad really.
If you can get scared in, you can get scared out.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/2/2008 10:41:22 AM
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restinginHim
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I'm going to try and not be intimidated by all the 3, 4 and 5 star members. 
Well it's like i'm at a swimming pool and the water is cold -- i'm going to jump right in! 
I do not celebrate Halloween. 
Peter 1:13 Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; 15 but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”
I am not here to judge nor change minds, just to offer up what i feel speaks to my spirit.
Jesus said, in Matthew 5: 13-16 “You are the salt of the earth; but if the salt loses its flavor, how shall it be seasoned? It is then good for nothing but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot by men. “You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven."
QUESTION: Do you feel you can still be salty and celebrate Halloween?
Romans 14:13-14 Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way. The Law of Love I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean. Yet if your brother is grieved because of your food, you are no longer walking in love. Do not destroy with your food the one for whom Christ died.
QUESTION: Is it possible that even though it does not grieve your spirit that you celebrate halloween, it possibly may cause confusion or disillusionment to some brother or sister who has yet to come to Christ or who is new in Christ and is weak?
Jesus said in Matthew 18:6 “Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea."
QUESTION: Along the same lines, are we putting too much confusion unto our little children expecting them to understand that we are to the light of the world and set apart but yet we participate in a holiday that is known for witchcraft, ghosts, demons etc.
Well, that's it -- thanks for taking the time to read. 
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/2/2008 11:12:17 AM
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QUESTION: Is it possible that even though it does not grieve your spirit that you celebrate halloween, it possibly may cause confusion or disillusionment to some brother or sister who has yet to come to Christ or who is new in Christ and is weak?
Along those lines, celebrating Christmas can do much the same thing due to commercialism, incorrect date of birth (wrong time of year), etc. At some point, all of this crosses the line and becomes legalism. There seems to be a disconnect between intent and judgment.
All this is solved by knowing that God knows the heart and we do not. Certainly, we can refrain from activities, but our intent should be to teach others (particularly new Christians) not to judge the intent of people unless we have been told exactly what the intent was. In reality, much of the bad reputation carried by Christians is derived from this self-righteous judgment of others.
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/2/2008 12:40:52 PM
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restinginHim
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bluestone, thanks for the encouragement. I needed it. 
WesP, I agree that understanding intent is huge. Because i believe most Christians who celebrate halloween or Christmas have good intentions.
Certainly judgement is never needed  . I know i have too many issues to be picking up a stone.  When discussing such issues, the question of self-righteousness is hard to be avoided. When we claim to be right all by our self, we are all wrong in about 6 billion different ways.
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Wes P: "Along those lines, celebrating Christmas can do much the same thing..." and "Certainly, we can refrain from activities, but..."
By the way, i don't celebrate Christmas nor Easter.  I feel that our walk with the LORD is a personal one. Personally, i found myself refraining from activities if i see them as blurred of the truth. As i wrote above, I feel Him calling me to be holy and salty and not to be a stumbling block for His Name's Sake not for my own (cuz i sure do like candy ).
Ephesians 5:8-12 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret.
Thanks again for going easy on a 1 star
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RE: Halloween 2008 - 9/2/2008 1:34:35 PM
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(((hugs for one star Resting in Him)))
If you really want to get a bunch of stars, diving into these debates can do it if the discussion get heated. We tend to get a bit tongue in cheek alot lately, so keep that in mind.
I understand about not wanting the truth blurred by our human holiday traditions. I get ambivilent about it myself at times. It can be hard to know where to draw the line, especially when it comes to being a role model for someone else. As far as Halloween goes, I don't mind discussing fear, bats, bones, costumes, etc. but I get annoyed with the glorification of evil.
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