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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 7:34:10 AM
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Miss Giggles
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If they were born in Michigan you can go online and request a copy of their birth certificate through whichever county office is applicable and they will mail it to you.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 10:53:08 AM
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Chrystal-J-007
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spitzu--I don't know if he knows his state ID numbers by heart, but I'll ask him.
miss giggles--I think you need a credit card to purchase a birth certificate on-line and he doesn't have one.
row1--that wouldn't work cuz you have to have the "offical" seal, plus it's illegal and he's not fond of jail...lol
Thanks for all your replies!
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 11:08:29 AM
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Miss Giggles
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Well then he'll have to call the office and find out when they are open and then go down during office hours to get it. You can get them in person if needed.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 11:40:41 AM
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zoebob
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When I have needed a birth certificate I don't think I needed my DL number...just SS#
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 12:27:56 PM
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Chrystal-J-007
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Miss giggles--he'll probably end up having to go there in person. The only problem with that is that the place he was born at is about 40 miles away and he doesn't drive. But, maybe he can get a ride.
zoebob--the site I went to for the secretary of state of Michigan said a birth certificate is required. I personally think they're asking for too much--this limbo my neighbor's in is proof of that.
Thanks everyone!
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 12:35:34 PM
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Miss Giggles
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Well call them, he might be able to just mail them a check. I think there is a pdf that you can fill out and mail in.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 1:01:52 PM
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.... I was able to order my birth certificate online.... all I had to do was answer the security questions....
.... but that was for Oregon.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 1:27:16 PM
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InfoCentral
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OK, there is a difference between a new id and a replacement. A new state id would require the birth certificate to obtain but a replacement would only require a form and payment.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 1:42:42 PM
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This is why you should always keep your expired driver's license.
Does he have a SS card?
Is he on any sort of public assistance? If so, they will have a copy of his birth certificate on file.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 1:55:14 PM
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zoebob
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zoebob--the site I went to for the secretary of state of Michigan said a birth certificate is required. I personally think they're asking for too much--this limbo my neighbor's in is proof of that.
I'm saying you shouldn't need a DL to get a birth certificate.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/9/2008 11:20:39 PM
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InfoCentral
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I'm saying you shouldn't need a DL to get a birth certificate.
This is the #1 document used to start a false identity. I guess they are trying to close that door.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 1:00:54 AM
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Chrystal-J-007
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ORIGINAL: Jenny-Fair
This is why you should always keep your expired driver's license.
Does he have a SS card?
Is he on any sort of public assistance? If so, they will have a copy of his birth certificate on file.
As far as I know, he does have an SS card. And he's had food stamps in the past, so he might be able to get a copy of his birth certificate--although, it won't have the embossed seal and they may not accept it. (Another one of my neighbor's suggested that too. I think it's a good place to start.)
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 1:03:09 AM
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Chrystal-J-007
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I'm saying you shouldn't need a DL to get a birth certificate.
This is the #1 document used to start a false identity. I guess they are trying to close that door.
I agree. These changes are fairly new. It must be linked to stopping identity theft.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 1:45:43 AM
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No, he should GO there. But seriously, he shouldn't need a birth cert. for a replacement state ID/driver's license. And are you sure he doesn't have an old driver's license or ID sitting around somewhere? Never been in the military? Expired passport? Driver's license from another state?
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 6:20:29 AM
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I think the website also said a voter's registration card would work. Does he hve that?
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 10:04:51 AM
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I think you need a birth certificate either way cuz this other guy I knew had to re-apply for his driver's license and had to show his birth certificate.
I have needed to replace my DL several times and I have yet to show a Birth Certificate to accomplish it. The website you are quoting from is the process to obtain a new DL not a replacement. Try finding the how to obtain a replacement DL procedure.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 10:07:17 AM
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I agree. These changes are fairly new. It must be linked to stopping identity theft. yes, that and immigration reform....
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 12:07:03 PM
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Chrystal-J-007
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No, he should GO there. But seriously, he shouldn't need a birth cert. for a replacement state ID/driver's license. And are you sure he doesn't have an old driver's license or ID sitting around somewhere? Never been in the military? Expired passport? Driver's license from another state?
He's an older, handicapped man (been handicapped his whole life). So, he's never done any of those things.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 12:12:21 PM
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Jenny-Fair
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In that case, I would imagine his SSI paperwork would help speed things along.
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RE: State ID~Catch 22 - 9/10/2008 12:14:25 PM
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Chrystal-J-007
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I think you need a birth certificate either way cuz this other guy I knew had to re-apply for his driver's license and had to show his birth certificate.
I have needed to replace my DL several times and I have yet to show a Birth Certificate to accomplish it. The website you are quoting from is the process to obtain a new DL not a replacement. Try finding the how to obtain a replacement DL procedure.
Are you from Michigan?
I talked to the guy who had to replace his driver's license today and he said that starting in January 2008, you have to show a birth certificate to get a replacement license.
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