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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 4:14:38 PM
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Jenny-Fair
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Yeah, it scares grown-ups, which is why they keep doing it, and why I would ignore it.
Really, though, a kid isn't going to kill themselves to make a point.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 4:16:29 PM
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What makes them hold their breath? Do they really know what they are doing at that age?
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 4:20:15 PM
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Probably not the first time, but after finding out that holding your breath causes you to go from the annoying child in trouble to the poor baby that is the center of attention and everone cares about, um, yeah, a child that young can use it to manipulate. They are pretty smart.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 7:43:10 PM
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It's classic, actually. Kids will do that 'till they pass out-but when they pass out they start breathing again. I wouldn't shake a child, though, especially a really young one. I would ignore that kind of fit.
My son use to do this. The first time he did it scared the pants off me, let me tell you. You are right they do breath again when they pass out, but I learned that when he started to hold his breath I would hold his nose, forcing him to breath through his mouth.
BTW: He stopped doing it
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 8:44:41 PM
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I've heard a splash of cold water works pretty well, too.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 9:02:38 PM
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Well, there is shaking and then there is shaking. Jiggling is fine, after all, we jiggle them to put them to sleep.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 9:09:34 PM
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If either of mine had held their breath, I'd have tickled them. That would sort it!
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 9:10:46 PM
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If either of mine had held their breath, I'd have tickled them. That would sort it!
That would work to get them to stop holding their breath. Is that then playing into the tantrum though?
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 9:16:52 PM
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That was a great post Barb. I work retail part-time and I see my share of tantrums. A few weeks ago a family came to me ready to check out and the their 1, maybe 2 yr. old wasn't very happy. She started sreaming and held her breath for the longest time. The mother had to shake her to get her to breath. I had never seen a child this. I don't think that's very good. Is this normal for some?
Just blow in their face. Natural reflex is to take a breath. They can't keep from doing it.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 9:20:11 PM
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If either of mine had held their breath, I'd have tickled them. That would sort it!
That would work to get them to stop holding their breath. Is that then playing into the tantrum though?
I did actually use tickling to disperse my son's "tantrums" sometimes. He went through a phase of wanting to turn everything into a confrontation, so my tickling him was to show him that what he was doing wasn't fazing me at all, that he had no power over me. The same would apply if he'd held his breath (he never did, I was just imagining what I'd have done if he had).
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/14/2008 9:40:32 PM
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That was a great post Barb. I work retail part-time and I see my share of tantrums. A few weeks ago a family came to me ready to check out and the their 1, maybe 2 yr. old wasn't very happy. She started sreaming and held her breath for the longest time. The mother had to shake her to get her to breath. I had never seen a child this. I don't think that's very good. Is this normal for some?
Just blow in their face. Natural reflex is to take a breath. They can't keep from doing it.
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LOL, Barb...I do that to my kids sometimes when they're crying. "WAAAAAAAAAA-GASP!" LOL It makes them stop for a second and sometimes altogether.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/15/2008 11:14:52 AM
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Well, there is shaking and then there is shaking. Jiggling is fine, after all, we jiggle them to put them to sleep.
We did the sleepy time jiggle here too!
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 2:29:06 PM
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I was thinking of this thread this weekend. I was visiting my girlfriend and her 2 year old was just crying on the ground. We all just ignored him. When he calmed down, he fell alseep. Sometimes you just have to tough it out until they figure out that the fit isn't going to work.
Please note that there was nothing wrong with him but the fact that he needed to go to sleep, but he would not calm down enough and would not be consoled.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 2:32:12 PM
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Your g/f was at fault for not putting him to sleep before he reached that point.
In any case, ignoring tantrums does frequently solve the problem. I can remember Dobson talking about that once. He can remember when he was small and a frequent tantrum-thrower and one day his parents just didn't pay him any mind and he thought, why go to all that work? LOL
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 3:35:09 PM
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THIS baby knows all about that.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 3:40:01 PM
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He was fine when we got there. Then it started. He was not even crying. There was nothing wrong with him. It is hard to know if you aren't there, I just was laughing that the same thing happened and I was thinking of people who get all freaked out about, and we just went on with our business. LOL! I guess I was more commenting on myself and my husband than the parenting skills of my friend (who is an awesome parent!).
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 3:48:08 PM
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THIS baby knows all about that.
I watched that then clicked on one that said TEMPER TANTRUM and it was like a 3 month old baby...
do y'all think 3 mos old really have temper tantrums?
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 4:20:49 PM
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He was fine when we got there.
Kids actually don't get fussy when they are ready for a nap. They get fussy when they were ready a while back and no one noticed. Obviously, you aren't going to catch it every time, and I don't think your friend is a bad mom, it's just that really, it isn't his fault that he wasn't put to bed when he was sleepy. (btw, they get kinda zoned-out and quiet when they are tired, but I guess a lot of people don't realize that)
3 months? No, I don't think I would call that a tantrum. Mad about something, maybe, but IMO a 3-month old doesn't understand enough to throw a tantrum.
My eldest did throw tantrums before he could walk. If I told him 'no' about something, he would throw himself back and scream. Of course he screamed, since he'd bonked his head on the floor, lol. So the neighbors were hearing, 'Wham! WAHAAAAAA' several times a day and finally sent another neighbor over (cowards!) to ask if I was beating my baby. I said, 'No, he's throwing tantrums. Would you like to come in and have a seat? I am sure he'll throw another one shortly' LOL
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 6:10:52 PM
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I am not going to discuss it, as it is an agree to disagree thing. You can't give all the details on line, and as I said, I was commenting more on the fact that my husand and I don't have kids, and we were around a child having a tantrum, and we did not go screaming away. I was not commenting on whether she should have done something different, as she does what works best for her home, and she has 2 great kids, so she is doing something right.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 6:23:25 PM
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Kids actually don't get fussy when they are ready for a nap. They get fussy when they were ready a while back and no one noticed. Obviously, you aren't going to catch it every time, and I don't think your friend is a bad mom, it's just that really, it isn't his fault that he wasn't put to bed when he was sleepy. (btw, they get kinda zoned-out and quiet when they are tired, but I guess a lot of people don't realize that)
I don't think that is true for all kids. I tried that approach with Gabby, and it just leads to her throwing tantrums in her bed. If I wait until she is a bit fussy to even put her to bed, then she goes to sleep just fine.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 10:08:55 PM
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I agree that every child is a little different. My second child could be totally angelic, and about 60 seconds before she was ready to conk out, she would get very cranky. It was almost comical at times how she would get fussy and then the next moment would be asleep.
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RE: Non-Parent Opinion on Temper Tantrums - 9/16/2008 11:10:13 PM
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I've always been a night owl, and hated going to sleep. But both my sisters would put themselves to bed as soon as they were tired. My baby sister even now, at 13, will stick a thumb in her mouth and be out like a light in 2 minutes! I wish I could be like that, but on the other hand, I probably handle sleep deprivation better than they do.
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