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Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 3:30:15 PM   
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Does anyone know why bay leaves are an ingredient found in most soup recipes? I'm just curious. You don't suppose it's because someone's great-great-great-grandmother always did, do you?

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 3:40:02 PM   
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And if you don't have bay leaf, can you just put another leaf in there? Elm, maybe?

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 3:48:43 PM   
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And if you don't have bay leaf, can you just put another leaf in there? Elm, maybe?

Absolutely, but I'd recommend you stay away from Elm and Maple... think more like thyme ans sage.

Here's an interesting article I found about bay leaves and soups: Link

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 6:47:17 PM   
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Whoever gets the bay leaf in their bowl is the one who has to do the dishes. That's what I always though it was for. LOL

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 6:49:09 PM   
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ROFLOL! Mom, did you have a bug in our car last night? Kevin asked why I put bay leaf in the soup. LOL!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 7:22:07 PM   
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My grandmother always said to remove the bay leaf because it could kill someone if they ate it.

(We need a melodramatic smiley!!)

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 7:58:45 PM   
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Whoever gets the bay leaf in their bowl is the one who has to do the dishes. That's what I always though it was for. LOL

ROFLOL

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ROFLOL! Mom, did you have a bug in our car last night? Kevin asked why I put bay leaf in the soup. LOL!

ROFLOL - Oh Myyyyyy!
Shoot, the jig is up. I did sit in the back seat a good bit if you recall.

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My grandmother always said to remove the bay leaf because it could kill someone if they ate it.

Hmmm, shades of Arsenic and Old Lace. Or is it the one who gets stuck with the dishes thinks they've been killed.
Thanks for the link. I still need to read it though.

I don't have thyme and sage. Can I use Oak?

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 8:05:42 PM   
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I am pretty sure my grandmother thought the sharp leaf could cause bleeding if swallowed and thereby cause death. I'd ask her, but I'm not up for the lecture and melodramatic worry session.

Just buy a jar of bay leaves and be done with it! You sound like me, asking why!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 8:15:48 PM   
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Tricia, how did you answer that question by the way? I was getting too much static to hear clearly.

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 8:18:41 PM   
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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 8:21:36 PM   
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LOL! Since I wasn't in the car when I answered, there's no doubt all you heard was static.

THIS SITE says to use thyme. But since you're out of that, too, I think you just need to run to the spice store!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 8:28:29 PM   
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Wow, I would have sworn I heard you in the car.

Sorry folks, I never said I was out. I just said "I'm just curious".

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 9:12:05 PM   
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Just buy a jar of bay leaves and be done with it!
Fresh is better... I have a small tree in my garden ~ whenever I want some bay, I go out and pick it! Or thyme, sage, parsley, basil, tarragon, rosemary, curry plant...

If you're not sure why you put it in, try leaving it out altogether and see how it tastes!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 9:16:38 PM   
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If you're not sure why you put it in, try leaving it out altogether and see how it tastes!

Isn't that a little too logical?

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 9:18:58 PM   
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Just buy a jar of bay leaves and be done with it!
Fresh is better... I have a small tree in my garden ~ whenever I want some bay, I go out and pick it! Or thyme, sage, parsley, basil, tarragon, rosemary, curry plant...

If you're not sure why you put it in, try leaving it out altogether and see how it tastes!

Ohhhh! I wonder if I could grow it here!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 9:56:58 PM   
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From what I've read, they're pretty hardy. There's a greengrocers in my town who order 1 bay tree at a time and keep it until it sells, then get another! One, they had for a couple of years and they would put it outside when the shop was open so it was used to all weathers! I thought about getting one of them, but they were so expensive...

Oddly enough, I bought mine (smaller, but much cheaper) from the American Museum in Bath (I wanted to see the Titanic exhibition more than anything) when I went with my family in the summer!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 9:58:00 PM   
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If you're not sure why you put it in, try leaving it out altogether and see how it tastes!

Isn't that a little too logical?

Hey, I can be logical!

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 10:10:36 PM   
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If you're not sure why you put it in, try leaving it out altogether and see how it tastes!

Isn't that a little too logical?

Hey, I can be logical!

LOL Ok.... I guess..... if you insist

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 10:13:02 PM   
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I do.

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 10:30:04 PM   
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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 11:21:27 PM   
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I never use it. I can't really taste the difference, so why bother?

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/22/2008 11:29:27 PM   
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I've got a couple soup recipes that are really quite good. I've never tried them without the bay leaf and I'm not so sure I want to risk it. I don't want to taste it and go "hmmm, something's missing"

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/23/2008 9:28:55 AM   
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Ah yes, the terrible risk that one time your soup might be mediocre. At least then you would know.

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/23/2008 9:47:24 AM   
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I don't want to taste it and go "hmmm, something's missing"
I've said that before... but then I'm fussy enough that I can tell the difference when I use ordinary thyme instead of lemon thyme in a soup that I make. It's ok, but it just ain't the same...

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RE: Why bay leaf? - 9/23/2008 10:17:45 AM   
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They do actually add a very subtle spiciness. I use them in my tomato sauce and my sister doesn't, and I can tell that they're missing. I don't have the luxury of having a laurel tree growing in my apartment complex, so I have to use dry ones.

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