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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/2/2008 5:01:58 PM
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raivyne
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Seems like he recognized the power God had to correct his drinking problem, but at the first sign of trouble he gave up on God. He didn't give the financial situation to God, which is what he should have done. Your ex-husband has free will to walk away from God. You can pray and pray and God may bring situations to your ex to try and cause him to turn back... but a step toward God will still have to be taken by your husband.
That's what I think, YMMV.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/2/2008 6:13:21 PM
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Misty35,
The Lord instructs us to weep with those who weep and that is not a suggestion, I take it as a commandment. To uphold one another is the very prayer of Christ to the Father that we would be one as He is One. So without knowing your real name, or where you live and only knowing what you have revealed to this group of concerned believers. I'm heading out to my church Thursday night men's group and will bring your situation before the Lord. Please take comfort in the Lord that saints are praying for you and the only reward we expect is to take joy when a heart is healed and forgiveness is asked.
I trust you have taken this before your pastor and some trusted friends in Christ in addition to those you have reached out to here. You will not be praying alone, feel the Lord bless you with His truth. A church which represents His bride, a church without doors, windows or name will be in oneness in petition to God, to comfort you in your time of hurt and anguish. God will reward you richly for your trust and patience of Him as He works "all thing for good to those who love Him and are called according to His purpose"
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/2/2008 7:10:18 PM
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Ya'll, I maybe rambling, but Im trying to make sense of all this. Between my divorce and my friend, IM NOT QUESTIONING GOD, Im just wanting to understand :(
Well, Misty, there's alot we will NEVER understand on this side of eternity. As Scarlet O'Hara said 'just don't worry your pretty little head about it'. (or something like that) I'm not trying to be smart or make light of your struggle, dear. But our God is a BIG God and He knows the end from the beginning and acts accordingly. We don't. Nor can we. And it is best that way because it is all part of His doing. Yes, sometimes it seems our prayers are accomplishing nothing. But often our prayers for others have more to do with us than we realize. God's changing YOU. He's conforming YOU to the image of Jesus. And it's a process we can't see or understand but have to believe, trust and accept by faith.
You're doing fine. Pray for your friend. Pray for your ex. Believe God will do His very best and accomplish ALL He has promised. He will. Bless ya, dear one! LL   (I think you need that.)
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/2/2008 7:22:08 PM
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But anyway, what I'm saying is that I have prayed, believed, endured, rebuked the devil out of our lives, u name it, I have done it, and it just didnt turn out the way I thought it was going to, so that makes me wonder, will God intervene and make someone wake up or will He remove His very presence from that persons life when He is rejected?
I think He allows them to choose, by their own free will, and if they choose to turn away from Him, He will let them go, and eat the fruit of their ways (ie face the consequences), but, if they were once His, will keep calling, keep providing ways for them to repent and come back to Him.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/2/2008 9:28:58 PM
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Hi to everyone here and thank u all so very much for responding and for your prayers :)
And yes, I have spoke to our Pastor and to one of the Deacons that I have really gotten close to, they have all reassured me that they are praying. Im not going to the church that we were once going to together because thats where my ex was raised and his parents go there as well, so I dont want them to feel uncomfortable by me being there. I have been ask many times to come back, but I just cant. His family has always shown love and kindness toward me and my daughter, but I just think us going back to church there would really make them feel uncomfortable. His dad came to me and said Misty we are not behind this divorce, we think he is making a mistake and sit with me as I cried. So I know all this has them really upset as well. We plan on starting a new church this Sun., and Im really looking forward to it.
The Lord has blessed me with Godly friends, family, work and now everyone here, and I could never thank Him enough. And I hope you all know how thankful I truly am for everyone of you, your support and prayers :)
You all have so many encouraging words, and I can say tonight that I already feel so much better, just by being here.
Your Friend,
Misty
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/2/2008 9:30:12 PM
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You're doing fine. Pray for your friend. Pray for your ex. Believe God will do His very best and accomplish ALL He has promised. He will. Bless ya, dear one! LL (I think you need that.)
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/12/2008 10:33:48 PM
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Some know about the friend that I have, that really shocked me, after I witnessed to him about Jesus Christ, and the transformation that He has made in my life. This friend and me, only speak through emails, and he told me that he didnt want to speak to me anymore, not until I was ready for the truth. That really hurt me at first, but I respected him, and I havent emailed him anymore. He believes that there were gods before Jesus Christ who did the same things that Christ did, just alot of things that hold No truth to them at all. And that the Bible is a fairytale. But anyway, tonight he has started emailing me again, saying the only way we can be friends, is if we dont discuss my beliefs anymore, and he wont discuss his with me. Im ok with that, but deep down in my heart, I just have no desire to even speak to him anymore. Is that wrong of me? I know Jesus Christ is Love, we are suppose to extend our hand to those in need, but I just have this feeling in me that the best thing to do, is just cut this friendship off, and then on the other hand, I feel guilty for feeling this way.
My life is so consumed with Jesus Christ, spreading His Word, helping those in need, that I just dont feel that I have a place for this friend anymore. Is what Im feeling right? Am I wrong? He is so against God, that I dont even feel like me and him have anything in common. And when I do email him, all I want to do is to tell him to wake up!! All I want to do is tell him how deceived and lied to he is being. I feel so full of anger when I receive emails from him, telling me to keep my beliefs to myself. I have nothing to say to him, but then I feel guilty, and I hate feeling guilty. I need some advice guys.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 3:53:15 AM
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misty
You're newly divorced, you're going on with Christ but feeling quite vulnerable. I honestly think you should be surrounding yourself with people who will support you and help you feel encouraged, rather than people who may drain you and feed off you.
Right now I don't know whether you should just not reply, or whether you should reply simply "I am sorry, I can't do that. When you want to talk about coming back to Christ you know where I am".
Commit the situation to prayer and wait on the Lord, and I'd suggest you don't do anything on impulse.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 10:59:53 AM
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misty
You're newly divorced, you're going on with Christ but feeling quite vulnerable. I honestly think you should be surrounding yourself with people who will support you and help you feel encouraged, rather than people who may drain you and feed off you.
Right now I don't know whether you should just not reply, or whether you should reply simply "I am sorry, I can't do that. When you want to talk about coming back to Christ you know where I am".
Commit the situation to prayer and wait on the Lord, and I'd suggest you don't do anything on impulse.
Manda59
I think your right, I have really thought about this, and I know in my heart that I have done all that I can do, I cannot make him change his mind or his heart, and I have tried talking to him, but some how, religion gets brought up, and he begins to tell me how naive I am, and it makes my blood boil. I have talked to him out of love and compassion, but when one continues to tell you that you dont know the truth about Christ, it really gets old. At this point, me and him have nothing in common. But I continue to ask myself, why am I feeling this guilt? Believe me, I try to avoid arguments and a debate, because I know the truth, and then I decide, this is it, Im not going to discuss it with him anymore, and then I begin to question myself, is the Lord asking me to do something that Im just not getting? I have witnessed to him, I have given him my testimony about how the Lord has changed my life, I have told him that Jesus Christ is there for him, all he has to do is call out on him.......what more can I do? I just cannot engage into a debate with him any longer.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 11:08:48 AM
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Misty, if I've missed something, forgive me, but I have two questions:
1) Was this friend of your's a Christian when you first started talking to him and now he's fallen away from the Lord?
2) How did you approach him when you started talking about all that Jesus has done for you? Sometimes the way we approach people with stuff like that makes a BIG difference, especially if they feel like you're cramming their religion down their throat.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 11:16:24 AM
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Speak the truth at all times, but also dust your feet off when the truth is not received. He will come to you now that he knows what you beleive, when he needs to come to you.
Don't keep knocking on his door... but knock on the door of prayer instead. If in time your friend comes to you knocking on your door... open it... and speak the truth at all times. :) At all times live a life worthy of the Gospel.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 11:24:58 AM
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For the past couple of days, I have been really shocked with what I have learned about a friend and I need advice, so please anyone who can help, please do.....
I have known this friend for about 4 years, we havent spoke in probably a year, maybe a little longer than that, but just recently, about 2 weeks ago, we began to email one another, and I shared with him what the Lord has done for me. He allowed me to continue to testify to him, and to my shock, he told me how closed minded that I am, and I shouldnt believe that I was saved, that we can save ourselves, well I went on to tell him how wrong he is. Well to make a long story short, when I went into work this morning, he had emailed me a lot of garbage, trying to prove the Bible to be wrong, well I deleted it, would not even read it.....he believes the Bible is a fairytale, not sure if he believes in Jesus Christ, he does believe that there is a God, but just isnt sure about all the other. He went as far as to tell me that he would repent on his death bed, I mean I have been in shock with all this!! I remember when he use to speak about the Lord, and it was nothing like this!
But anyway, his last email to me today said, "Do not email me again, you are a Bible thumper and you are pathetic, and I find people like you funny. When you are ready to know the truth, then you can email me." He went on to say that there were other Gods before Jesus Christ, who has done everything that He has. Believe me, I stood up for Christ, but I did it without anger, and ya'll, I know the Bible says, "We are Blessed if we are persecuted for His name sake." And I believe that, but it hurts to see a friend like this. I never expected any of this. I have prayed for him, and I will continue to pray for him, but it hurts to know that he believes like this.
What do I do??
May God Bless You All :)
Misty
I had a similar reaction with a longtime girlfriend of my sister
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Matthew 10:5-15
The princapal is in v11-15
And don't worry about it, God has other plans... for another time 
In other words God is going allow someone else to do the work, and it may get a little messy.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 12:06:41 PM
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Misty, if I've missed something, forgive me, but I have two questions:
1) Was this friend of your's a Christian when you first started talking to him and now he's fallen away from the Lord?
2) How did you approach him when you started talking about all that Jesus has done for you? Sometimes the way we approach people with stuff like that makes a BIG difference, especially if they feel like you're cramming their religion down their throat.
Ok, the 1st question, Im not sure if he was ever a Christian, we only speak through email, but we have for about 4 years, we lost touch with another for about a year, maybe a little longer, and about 4 weeks ago, he just popped into my thoughts, and I thought, well Im going to contact him, so I did. Now I can remember a time when he spoke about the Lord, because I was really battling bulemia at the time, but I dont remember him ever saying that he had been saved, I just remember him talking about the Bible, but very vaguely, and thats probably because at that time, I wasnt serving the Lord, I have always been a believer, but as we all know, there are many who believe, but are not saved.
And for the second question, when I contacted him, it was along the lines of how are you doing, its been forever since we have spoke, we actually emailed a few times, to just catch up before I even mentioned that I had been saved and the trnasformation that the Lord has performed in me. I actually couldnt wait to tell him, because he knew of the bulemia, but after battling this for about 16 years of my life.....today I dont, and Jesus Christ gets all the GLORY!! So, it was along those lines, and to my shock, he told me that I saved myself! Along with alot more, about gods before Jesus, the Bible is a fairytale, Im naive........Im not kidding you, Im still in shock from his response. I never shoved the Lord down his throat, but I did stand for what I believe in, and always will.
But I respected him, he said, "Do not contact me until you are ready to learn the truth." I said, "Ok." And in my mind, I was thinking, well that will never happen then, because I dont want to hear what he has to say, he had even sent me garbage about solar gods that I deleted, I wouldnt even read it. But then last night, after a week, he contacts me, and he said, "He thought I might be ready for the truth." Well words were passed, and I said its better we dont speak, because I know the truth, and Im praying for you. But then I feel horrible, and guilty. I didnt say anything I regret, but am I turning my back on him??
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 12:10:10 PM
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For the past couple of days, I have been really shocked with what I have learned about a friend and I need advice, so please anyone who can help, please do.....
I have known this friend for about 4 years, we havent spoke in probably a year, maybe a little longer than that, but just recently, about 2 weeks ago, we began to email one another, and I shared with him what the Lord has done for me. He allowed me to continue to testify to him, and to my shock, he told me how closed minded that I am, and I shouldnt believe that I was saved, that we can save ourselves, well I went on to tell him how wrong he is. Well to make a long story short, when I went into work this morning, he had emailed me a lot of garbage, trying to prove the Bible to be wrong, well I deleted it, would not even read it.....he believes the Bible is a fairytale, not sure if he believes in Jesus Christ, he does believe that there is a God, but just isnt sure about all the other. He went as far as to tell me that he would repent on his death bed, I mean I have been in shock with all this!! I remember when he use to speak about the Lord, and it was nothing like this!
But anyway, his last email to me today said, "Do not email me again, you are a Bible thumper and you are pathetic, and I find people like you funny. When you are ready to know the truth, then you can email me." He went on to say that there were other Gods before Jesus Christ, who has done everything that He has. Believe me, I stood up for Christ, but I did it without anger, and ya'll, I know the Bible says, "We are Blessed if we are persecuted for His name sake." And I believe that, but it hurts to see a friend like this. I never expected any of this. I have prayed for him, and I will continue to pray for him, but it hurts to know that he believes like this.
What do I do??
May God Bless You All :)
Misty
I had a similar reaction with a longtime girlfriend of my sister
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I need advice about a situation
Matthew 10:5-15
The princapal is in v11-15
And don't worry about it, God has other plans... for another time
In other words God is going allow someone else to do the work, and it may get a little messy.
LG
So what happened with her? Do you know? It breaks my heart to see people like this. I just want to shake them, and say wake up!! But I know at one time, I wasnt saved either, and I wasnt serving Christ, but I have always believed. Some of the things that he has emailed me, would absolutely scare me to say those things about and against Christ.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 12:30:33 PM
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But then I feel horrible, and guilty. I didnt say anything I regret, but am I turning my back on him??
In my experience, the Lord does not make us feel guilty, but convicted. (There is a difference IMO)
misty, is it possible that you are prone to codependent relationships, where you end up feeling responsible for someone even when they are not your responsibility? Have there ever been times in your life (even in your long ago life) where people have tried to put false guilt on you, ie tried to make you feel it was all down to you, rather than taking responsibility for themselves? If so, that could be why you are feeling this way now.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 12:36:11 PM
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misty35
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But then I feel horrible, and guilty. I didnt say anything I regret, but am I turning my back on him??
In my experience, the Lord does not make us feel guilty, but convicted. (There is a difference IMO)
misty, is it possible that you are prone to codependent relationships, where you end up feeling responsible for someone even when they are not your responsibility? Have there ever been times in your life (even in your long ago life) where people have tried to put false guilt on you, ie tried to make you feel it was all down to you, rather than taking responsibility for themselves? If so, that could be why you are feeling this way now.
Absolutely, as many of you know, I have recently went through a divorce, a marriage that I fought for, but my ex just wouldnt have it, he completely turnd his back on me and my daughter, and told me the reason he went back to drinking was because of me, it was all my fault, I have thought about that as well, and i know deep down in my heart, it wasnt my fault, we are responsible for our own actions, but yes, I have been blamed in the past, to a certain extent, I have probably possibly believed it at the time, but I dont now.
In this situation, I just wonder, did I contact this person for a reason, have I done what the Lord has ask of me, or is there more, maybe I shouldnt have contacted him at all, Im just not sure.
And now that you mention it, that maybe just it Manda59, I have always been one to try to make everything better, its always been me to fight for something, and at times, would take responsibility for others actions when I knew deep down in my heart, it wasnt my place to.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 12:40:52 PM
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I didnt say anything I regret, but am I turning my back on him??
No. I don't think you're turning your back on him. You tried to tell him what you felt and what you attributed your healing to, and he turned his back on you. Maybe he felt that you were trying to push your faith off on him (the way it sounds, I would disagree with him if he does). Still, his reaction was even more forceful in the things he's continually sent you and said to you.
Personally, I guess I'm with the crowd that says to ignore him and brush him off. You tried to tell him the truth, and he turned his back on you (not the other way around). If you do feel the need to e-mail him, again, I'd tell him that you don't want to listen to any of his "truth" until he's ready to listen to your's as well. Right now, he seems more set on just trying to ruin your faith and force his beliefs down YOUR throat, so he won't listen to you.
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 12:42:22 PM
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I didnt say anything I regret, but am I turning my back on him??
No. I don't think you're turning your back on him. You tried to tell him what you felt and what you attributed your healing to, and he turned his back on you. Maybe he felt that you were trying to push your faith off on him (the way it sounds, I would disagree with him if he does). Still, his reaction was even more forceful in the things he's continually sent you and said to you.
Personally, I guess I'm with the crowd that says to ignore him and brush him off. You tried to tell him the truth, and he turned his back on you (not the other way around). If you do feel the need to e-mail him, again, I'd tell him that you don't want to listen to any of his "truth" until he's ready to listen to your's as well. Right now, he seems more set on just trying to ruin your faith and force his beliefs down YOUR throat, so he won't listen to you.
I think so too...Thanks
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 2:45:10 PM
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For the past couple of days, I have been really shocked with what I have learned about a friend and I need advice, so please anyone who can help, please do.....
I have known this friend for about 4 years, we haven’t spoke in probably a year, maybe a little longer than that, but just recently, about 2 weeks ago, we began to email one another, and I shared with him what the Lord has done for me. He allowed me to continue to testify to him, and to my shock, he told me how closed minded that I am, and I shouldn’t believe that I was saved, that we can save ourselves, well I went on to tell him how wrong he is. Well to make a long story short, when I went into work this morning, he had emailed me a lot of garbage, trying to prove the Bible to be wrong, well I deleted it, would not even read it.....he believes the Bible is a fairytale, not sure if he believes in Jesus Christ, he does believe that there is a God, but just isn’t sure about all the other. He went as far as to tell me that he would repent on his death bed, I mean I have been in shock with all this!! I remember when he use to speak about the Lord, and it was nothing like this!
But anyway, his last email to me today said, "Do not email me again, you are a Bible thumper and you are pathetic, and I find people like you funny. When you are ready to know the truth, then you can email me." He went on to say that there were other Gods before Jesus Christ, who has done everything that He has. Believe me, I stood up for Christ, but I did it without anger, and ya'll, I know the Bible says, "We are Blessed if we are persecuted for His name sake." And I believe that, but it hurts to see a friend like this. I never expected any of this. I have prayed for him, and I will continue to pray for him, but it hurts to know that he believes like this.
What do I do??
May God Bless You All :)
Misty
I had a similar reaction with a longtime girlfriend of my sister
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I need advice about a situation
Matthew 10:5-15
The principal is in v11-15
And don't worry about it, God has other plans... for another time
In other words God is going allow someone else to do the work, and it may get a little messy.
LG
So what happened with her? Do you know? It breaks my heart to see people like this. I just want to shake them, and say wake up!! But I know at one time, I wasnt saved either, and I wasnt serving Christ, but I have always believed. Some of the things that he has emailed me, would absolutely scare me to say those things about and against Christ.
Greetings,
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So what happened with her? Do you know? It breaks my heart to see people like this. I just want to shake them, and say wake up!
I may be pushing the limit on what kind of advice I can offer but
Basically Matt 10 is more of a safe mode.. So to speak,
not much argument other than folks having or not having the will to hear the word
The flack comes by way when we pressure any situation according to Luke 12:7-11... we will get flack...
The first part of verse 10 is also part of the commission, we have been and are protected by being forgiven and giving forgiveness, and if we don’t succeed by that testimony we need to let God have that space to work in "that situation; and it is up to us to never to shut "that door.... to allow God to work (John 6:44)….. in other words move out of the way and "KEEP OUR KOOL!
And I don't believe the 2 scenarios presented here qualify for that one, trust me If the Lord ever allows it... we will know that difference! 
Perhaps reading about Paul’s lessons on that; where he was left for dead many times... before he learned how to pull if off correctly.
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So what happened with her?
I can only speak for myself; and I did what verse v10 in Luke 12 in the first part teaches us; about everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man.... that it will be forgiven
So I forgave her, not outright in writing in the email ... but by that I still email every now and then to say hello etc. etc.. as if it never happened;
If I get a response then I reply, but I always say I love you unconditionally and bless her....and if you need me you know how to find me. ....(Don't shut the door!)
And I guess that may easier to do when you are like a brother to someone you've known for some 30 years...
.....but it works with all of us
Over the years she has went through 2 husbands and one of which may still be in Jail for vehicular homicide and was rather abusive; and she has fallen to the wayside into lesbianism, so there are reasons for these things, cursing God and such, 
Its the ones who say they are God… these are the ones to be careful about!!. 
...And I have never heard that claim from her... its more an anger.
but.......... the second part of v 10 in Luke 12:7-11 is not our commission; that’s in Gods court... therefore the HS has to create a hedge in that hour we need it, so no one gets hurt... so to speak!
If you want a picture of that read Acts 19:13-20
All I can suggest is to just wait it out… let "God" lend a couple of hits here and there; then God may let you know when to pop in another email ...just say hello, in His perfect timing
Trust me…. eventually they will be looking forward to it …but may never admit to it at first.
...As such was the way in my own testimony.
LG
< Message edited by LoyalGypsy -- 10/13/2008 8:51:15 PM >
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RE: I need advice about a situation that Im facing.... - 10/13/2008 4:22:11 PM
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kmangel
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Misty,
I have shared the gospel countless times over the internet (here and on another forum) and believe me, if a person is not ready to hear the gospel they won't. I bet many here would attest to the same as me on that score! Don't despair. You are not doing anything wrong. Some people are just not where they need to be to hear what a Christian has to share. The day may come otherwise, but until then you'll be spinning your wheels.
When I was an unbeliever, I had a Christian friend that would from time to time bring up God. I would brush off her comments. I had no interest in talking about God. I was not nasty or argumentative. I just wasn't interested in talking about spiritual things. My friend was always gentle and kind with me. I never remember her getting upset or frustrated with me.
Then the day arrived when I was saved. I went straight to this friend to share with her what had happened to me. A relationship developed built on a shared faith.
I asked her a few years after my salvation about our relationship before I was saved. She told me she figured I was in her life for a reason--that God had put me in her life--and she trusted God with whatever happened. I'm sure she was praying for me all during this time.
This friend you are talking about though is being argumentative. We can not argue people into God's Kingdom. Since this is bothering you, I think you are should consider walking away. As others have said, you can leave with an open invitation for your friend to feel free to contact you with any sincere questions he has.
Most of all, trust God with your friend. God calls us to be faithful, not successful. Leave the saving to God.
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Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in.
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