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John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 12:08:47 PM
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Leslie_JnJs_mom
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Aunt Jodi is not happy. Read the blog [url=http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/]Here[/here]
I have not watched the shows but the people I talk to who do say the mother is not really a nice person. One person said how Aunt Jodi watched all of the children all day long for free but when mom gets home aunt Jodi gets no thank you but a lecture about chewing gum. She also threw away one of the kids favorite teddy bears because it had gum on it. Geesh all you have to do is freeze it to get the gum off.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 12:35:29 PM
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truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com
I think it is really sad that someone would be promoting hatred, even in the name of truth.
The kind of truth that breeds hatred probably doesn't line up with the rest of Philippians 4:8-9, copied from The Message below:
8-9Summing it all up, friends, I'd say you'll do best by filling your minds and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious—the best, not the worst; the beautiful, not the ugly; things to praise, not things to curse. Put into practice what you learned from me, what you heard and saw and realized. Do that, and God, who makes everything work together, will work you into his most excellent harmonies.
I don't see how this person is making the world a better place by trying to ruin the reputation of John and Kate from the TV show. Isn't that the job of the children's tell-all book they will be publishing when they're adults?!?! 
Seriously, we all offend in many ways. So this person doesn't like Kate's personality. She casts innuendo about there being some sort of hidden abuse going on. Like anyone has a perfect family.
With all the TV crews in and out of their home, if there is anything DHS needs to know about it I am sure someone will report it. Having a nasty personality is not against the law. It is not abuse. It may not be pleasant, but people have survived worst.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 12:46:40 PM
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clag4christ
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Aunt Jodi is not happy. Read the blog [url=http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/]Here[/here]
I have not watched the shows but the people I talk to who do say the mother is not really a nice person. One person said how Aunt Jodi watched all of the children all day long for free but when mom gets home aunt Jodi gets no thank you but a lecture about chewing gum. She also threw away one of the kids favorite teddy bears because it had gum on it. Geesh all you have to do is freeze it to get the gum off.
I think this is possibly bordering on gossip...especially since you don't watch the show and don't know these people personally.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:15:23 PM
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I am going to jump in and defend Kate. She is very uptight, so am I. She snaps at her husband; I did a lot when we had three kids under 4 yrs old. I can only imagine how much worse it would be if we had 8. She "hits" him when she is talking or irritated; while I do not do this I know a few people who do and they are NOT abusive.
I have a sister who helped me a lot over the years and I am 99% sure that I have forgotten to thank her more than once and that I have taken her for granted more than once. Thankfully, she doesn't blog about all my faults. She does vent to her friends as do I.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:40:28 PM
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That blog was started in defense of Jodi, by her sister, to defend all of the trash-talking that Kate was doing.
I live in the same area as Jon and Kate, and do not know them, nor would I want to. They have received tons of bed press here. It did make me suspicious of them when I realized many, many people have a story, and they are all pretty much the same. I have seen snippets of the show and have turned it off because I think they are a horrible example of Christianity, and want no part of upping the ratings.
I do know this, my good friend/neighbor used to volunteer in their home 3 times a week. She never bragged about, but once when we were discussing TLC's schedule, I shared some misgivings about the show and the bad press. While we both agree that you can't believe everything you read, she was there to witness a lot of it and the majority of the bad press is true.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:43:29 PM
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I only know what I observe from the show, but I would never talk to my husband the way she does.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:45:25 PM
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I would think gossip would be more like if a friend of mine told me something in private or if I was at a friends house and did not like what I saw so I came on here to talk about it. These people put themselves out there for the world to see so if people talk about what goes on then I do not see how that is gossip any more then if I was talking about an episode of the Cosby Show. I was repeating what a friend told me about a television show not someone's private life.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:49:05 PM
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They have received tons of bed press here.
I think you meant BAD press, lol.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:58:16 PM
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I would think gossip would be more like if a friend of mine told me something in private or if I was at a friends house and did not like what I saw so I came on here to talk about it. These people put themselves out there for the world to see so if people talk about what goes on then I do not see how that is gossip any more then if I was talking about an episode of the Cosby Show. I was repeating what a friend told me about a television show not someone's private life.
I don't believe that gossip can be defined in just that way. If your intent was to use Kate's example of wifing and match that against the Bible and call us all to a higher standard then I can understand that. Though I still probably wouldn't participate in the conversation if it turned into a bashing of sorts.
But your statement, "I have not watched the shows but the people I talk to who do say the mother is not really a nice person. " is indeed gossip. You and your friend were discussing someone in the third person (who was not there to defend herself) and bashing her. How is that productive?
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I was repeating what a friend told me about a television show not someone's private life. Though their life is on tv it is indeed still their life. Repeating something that someone said, that you've no knoweledge of yourself is also gossip.
Instead of talking about what a 'bad wife' ya'll think she is...how about praying for her and maybe writing her a nice letter or something to encourage her in her Christian walk and her marriage relationship?
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 1:59:27 PM
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I think a big root of their problem is that Kate insisted on going on fertility drugs a 2nd time when they weren't BOTH a 100% on board with it.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:04:06 PM
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gossip: idle talk or rumor, esp. about the personal or private affairs of others; to talk idly, esp. about the affairs of others; go about tattling.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:04:41 PM
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When people CHOOSE to let themselves be on TV, there are consequences.
The McCaugheys have been very careful over the years about limiting their interviews, and protecting their children's privacy, and I respect them for that...and the dad never quit his day job.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:06:27 PM
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I think you meant BAD press, lol.
Oops, sorry about that. However, you pointing it out was the best laugh I had all day. Thanks! 
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:09:34 PM
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I have always wondered why people who "put themselves out there" are fair game for gossiping about. Is there anywhere in the Bible that differentiates between who we may or may not gossip about?
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:18:47 PM
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I wince as I write this. I blogged about one of my own injustices recently, and was convicted and deleted it a day later. It was specific enough that (to my shame) I included names.
What I wrote was all true, but it was not praise-worthy or virtuous AT ALL. My conscience convicts me that it was unrighteous to blog about someone else's misdeeds.
That's why I won't go back to the site, or pass it on to others. But that's my personal issue.
Do not beat yourself up. You realized what you did wrong and fixed it. We all mess up at times the best you can do is ask God for forgiveness and move on.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:22:50 PM
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clag4christ
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Is there anywhere in the Bible that differentiates between who we may or may not gossip about?
The answer is no...there is not.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:46:11 PM
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For the love of Pete, people are talking about a blog and a TV show - things put out for public consumption. None of you know these people, the only way you do know them is by what they have chosen to make public for people to see.
There is no issue of gossip here. There is no biblical admonition against talking about a TV show you do not watch.
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 2:59:30 PM
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OneOfHisJewels
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BUT I do think the woman putting all this ugly truth on her blog is gossiping. She claims to be personally involved, and she is certainly not being the peacemaker God has called us to be.
Maybe, but if it was YOUR sister being attacked publicly, don't you think you might want to DEFEND that same sister publicly?
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RE: John and Kate ~ family troubles - 10/6/2008 3:05:57 PM
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That blog was started in defense of Jodi, by her sister, to defend all of the trash-talking that Kate was doing.
I live in the same area as Jon and Kate, and do not know them, nor would I want to. They have received tons of bed press here. It did make me suspicious of them when I realized many, many people have a story, and they are all pretty much the same. I have seen snippets of the show and have turned it off because I think they are a horrible example of Christianity, and want no part of upping the ratings.
Who says they're Christians?
I've never heard anything either way on the show.
I've watched the show a handful of times. Once out of morbid curiosity, and then a couple other times because it was the only thing on. I dislike the way she talks to him. I think it's as bad as some sitcoms that I dislike for the same reason. However, they are raising their kids the best way they know how. I may disagree with the use of fertility drugs, but it's not my place to judge them. Actually, it's not my place to judge them for any of their actions ... be it how they parent or how they are to each other.
I will say that when you are willing to put yourself on cable TV and let the whole world watch how you do things and how you raise your children (which I would guess they do for the financial assistance ... and I'm sure it's not cheap to raise 8 children), you are opening yourselves for criticism, nastyness, and lots and lots of bad press/gossip/mean talking. It's just going to happen. Some people will email it to them directly, some will just keep it at the office water cooler. But it's going to happen. I imagine you have to have pretty thick skin to allow TV crews to tape your family like that. I know I couldn't do it.
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I was mad thinking what on earth is this show and it was john and Kate. I have never watched that show since. I would never ever ever trash talk my husband in front of the whole world like that woman was.
I blogged about one of my own injustices recently, and was convicted and deleted it a day later. It was specific enough that (to my shame) I included names. 
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