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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/26/2008 11:41:41 PM
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womaninchrist
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MrsTracy72, you're almost certainly right that he needs help, but until he's willing to admit that he has problems or even just to accept that *I* see certain things as problems and that for the good of our relationship changes need to happen so that *I* can feel comfortable around him - absolutely NOTHING will change... After what he pulled the other night on one hand he's been super nice but on the other (meaning if the subject of what he did or of times he's pulled similar is brought up) he gets upset and defensive and goes on to spout all sorts of excuses and justifications (including that I have no right to protest or be upset about such from him). Which means he's still not willing to see any of this as HIS problem or at least as something HE needs to do. I hope you can figure out your meds.
I've gotten some (if it all works) good news. I can get a checking account for just $25 if I can fund it - the account is already approved. Also, my Aunt may be helping me with some expenses (like my ID an setting up a checking account so I can hopefully be my own payee). She's working with my Mom on that and it's being seriously enough considered that I had to email them today with a list of things and costs. Hopefully something will work out soon.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/27/2008 3:39:30 AM
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/27/2008 12:56:47 PM
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Wow... we don't here, unless you want things like overdrafts and such, for your basic account it's free.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/27/2008 3:18:49 PM
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I think we might be having a bit of misunderstanding, Agapetos. I'll have a free account (assuming I keep it balanced, etc.), what I'm having a problem with is arranging the initial deposit to get the account all the way started - and that's even with a great online deal to let me start the account with an initial deposit of just $25 (usually banks around here want you to depost at least $100 to start a checking account).
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/27/2008 3:44:18 PM
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Oh ok...
I haven't a clue what the minimum deposit is here... they generally like for you to pay your salary into the account though, if you're working! Many state benefits are paid direct into the account too, which they like.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/27/2008 11:16:45 PM
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Hey Beth! Glad you are getting through, but wish you would get through a little easier. It will be hard to say goodbye to your kids, but you will always have those memories, and one day you know you will go back and get to see how some of them have grown. How cool is that???
I am so bummed today. We got snow AGAIN. I can't stand it when there is no sunshine. I really need that. But one day, maybe in July, spring will show its face.
Has anybody heard from Denim? She has been missing for a few days now.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/31/2008 2:21:41 PM
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I pray that God will forgive me for not talking to her about Him when I had the chance. Meilissa, I am sorry about your news. I had to comment though. We've all been guilty of not witnessing to someone at some time who dies and we're not sure if they've ever come to know Christ as their personal saviour. However, there is nothing that says this is something that can't be forgiven. I think that what we have to do, is learn from our actions (or inactions). While it's not easy to do, we can choose to not let this happen again. I don't think this means that we need to shove Christianity down someone's throat, but make it clear why we behave in a certain way and show others our faith ~ yes, there is still a need for talking, but it's also important to show our faith.
Melissa, again, I'm sorry that you've lost someone, but please stop beating yourself up on this.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/31/2008 7:10:18 PM
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Hi Denim!
Melissa, I'm gonna just second what Agapetos said since she said it all so well.
Me? Somehow, the bank went ahead and fully opened the account - without any deposit. Not that I'm complaining. Plus I'm getting some money from at least my Aunt. Now to just iron out a few details...
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 3/31/2008 9:39:31 PM
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Hey Denim!!!
What is Celebrate Recovery? I think that we might have something like that at our church. I just know it sounds familiar. Sorry about the computer thing. My antivirus is updated by my cable company so I am good to go.
Glad you at least seem well.
As for the new meds? Which ones? Today I got them changed again because they were making me not sleep and my muscles twitch. It is so irritating, so we did lower the dose and I feel like I should just sign over my checking account to the pharmacy these days.
Anyway, I am just getting ready to give up with this whole med thing. I talked to my psych doc today and told him that I had to take 4 clonozopam to make an attempt to make my muscles stop. Then on top of that, I added a muscle relaxer. He told me that I could do that, but all it was going to do was make me tired. Think again. It did nothing so why bother taking it.
I see him at the end of April so I will give it until then. I think that maybe if I start just going to weekly therapy instead of bi-weekly or once a month, that maybe that might be ok. I just don't know because I know that sometimes I get so down that I don't even think straight. It is like I can feel my brain draining and I can't do anything about it.
I tried to explain that to my pscyh doc but he didn't seem to get it. But a friend of mine described it as getting sucked into a vortex and just going. So I guess that is the best way I can explain it. But either way, I can't let myself get that way because it just isn't a good thing.
The Lexapro worked well for my depression and anxiety, and when I use that with the wellbutrin, I even have some energy, but I can't be on the Lexapro. Just confused as to what to do. I have this friend who told me to just move forward and don't look back. She had some similar things happen to her, and it seems to work for her, but I just can't do what she did. But I don't want to feel like this.
I am starting to babble now. See what happens when you ask me about my meds???
Sorry.
But I did have a good day today. I just ate a little too much, but other than that, it was good.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 11:49:55 AM
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OK, I'm on a different generic for Wellbutrin than I used to be. I've been taking it since Friday night. I've also been having more intense panic attacks. I don't know if there is a connection or not.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 12:17:41 PM
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It could be from the change, but it could also be because you're stressing yourself out by the possibility there could be problems with the change.
Was there any reason why they changed it?
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 12:19:41 PM
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Because it's a different dr., different pharmacy, etc. They don't have the generic that I was on. I never gave it a thought that the meds would be any different. When I switched from Wellbutrin to the generic, I didn't have this problem.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 1:25:56 PM
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When I switched from Wellbutrin to the generic, I didn't have this problem. The chances are good then that you won't have a problem with this change. Remember that just a few days ago you were stressed about your dd going to spend time with her father ~ that could well have an effect on you still and combined with the suprise of the 'change' in meds...
Events don't have to be dramatic or now to affect us, they can be minor and they can be recent (and yes in the distant past too)...
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 1:28:58 PM
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hmm... I hadn't thought about that.
I will talk to the dr. about it on the 11th. I will also mention it to my therapist on Thurs.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 1:56:26 PM
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Denim, out of curiosity, which particular generic are you on now? I'm just wondering because my husband never had troubles with any versions of wellbutrin or any generics either till one particular generic (Budeprion XL a generic of Wellbutrin XL) and that one about drove both of us nuts between mood instability and new side effecs so we did some digging, found out a lot of others had trouble with that one too and ended up filing a report with the FDA about his experience. It was bad enough that his doc managed to talk DSHS (Washington's Medicaid) into covering the brand name again, despite the available generic.
Oh, and two things I can vouch for by experience... One known to happen - sometimes when you stop and restart a med your reaction changes (meaning the effectiveness or side effects may be different). The other supposedly almost unheard of - sometimes even without a problem in the generic, my reaction changes between generics or even between brand name and generic and in weird ways too (like I tolerate acetaminophen but not Tylenol).
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 2:04:20 PM
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That's the one they put me on.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 2:51:35 PM
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I think we need to be very careful about talking about side reactions to specifics medications in this way.
Yes, someone may have experienced side effects, but that doesn't mean that everyone who takes that medication will experience them, or that the medication should be bad. It should as womaninchrist did, be reported but that's not the same as discussing it in forums.
Many of us get very stressed about out meds and worry about side effects and becoming dependant on them ~ and it's probably the last thing that we want or need. While we need to keep our eyes open to any problems that may arise due to our medication, we also need to be aware that our mind can play tricks on us and it is worry, not medications that are causing the problems.
I would suggest that you speak with your doctor before the 11th if you are at all worried about this though ~ while your therapist should support you in your decisions, remember that it is your doctor who prescribes them. You've had a stressful time recently with moving, with applying for disability, work, your dd's trip (that didn't happen) ~ not to mention starting to see a therapist and dealing with a new doctor... again, all these could be the reason why you're 'reacting' to your meds.
Again, don't let this go on too long. Speak with your therapist on Thursday and, depending on how you feel you're managing the panic attacks, your doctor if necessary.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 2:54:26 PM
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ORIGINAL: agapetos
I think we need to be very careful about talking about side reactions to specifics medications in this way.
Yes, someone may have experienced side effects, but that doesn't mean that everyone who takes that medication will experience them, or that the medication should be bad. It should as womaninchrist did, be reported but that's not the same as discussing it in forums.
Many of us get very stressed about out meds and worry about side effects and becoming dependant on them ~ and it's probably the last thing that we want or need. While we need to keep our eyes open to any problems that may arise due to our medication, we also need to be aware that our mind can play tricks on us and it is worry, not medications that are causing the problems.
I would suggest that you speak with your doctor before the 11th if you are at all worried about this though ~ while your therapist should support you in your decisions, remember that it is your doctor who prescribes them. You've had a stressful time recently with moving, with applying for disability, work, your dd's trip (that didn't happen) ~ not to mention starting to see a therapist and dealing with a new doctor... again, all these could be the reason why you're 'reacting' to your meds.
Again, don't let this go on too long. Speak with your therapist on Thursday and, depending on how you feel you're managing the panic attacks, your doctor if necessary.
I agree with agapetos on this one folks.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 4/1/2008 4:29:45 PM
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Maybe I wasn't as clear as I could have been, but my intention was just that it CAN happen and if Denim is feeling worse than before she restarted meds or getting a totally different reaction than she usually does to other versions or generics of Wellbutrin, it's worth contacting the prescribing doc - instead of letting it go on for weeks like my DH did. In theory it's something that shouldn't happen, but as my husband and I prove with our histories, for whatever reason it still does SOMETIMES and thus IF it does, it should be brought to the doc's attention.
I of all people know that what happens to me is unlikely to happen to others, I usually have to find a copy of the full prescribing info or even something with the post marketing reports too just to find some of my side effects which means finding people with my side effects means finding another of the 1 in 1000 or even 1 in 10000 users of whatever (definitely not something I should expect to find IRL or on forums). I know it's that far down into the realm of weird in some cases... I wasn't at all trying to imply it's likely or common or something to be "expected". More that "shouldn't" doesn't mean "won't" or "never does" and thus if nothing else it's worth a call for her peace of mind. That make more sense?
I'm hoping it does clear things up, I'm having one of my neuro days and that means sometimes I know or think I know what I'm saying and what comes out may - or may not - say anything clearly.
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The past several weekends have been so busy that I haven't been able to hardly rest or take a breath.
I can only hope she did, because I've never talked to her about Him and now I wish I did, but it's too late now. I pray that God will forgive me for not talking to her about Him when I had the chance. 
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