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one percent theory - 7/12/2008 4:28:17 PM
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terryjohn
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'If there's a one percent chance [that something is happening], we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response'. This Cheney doctrine evades critical debate and has shaped the Bush administration's record since 2001; an important report on the US's war on terror.
If this is so, will we treat all those that are not 100% for us, as being 100% against us?
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RE: one percent theory - 7/13/2008 2:36:52 AM
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I have a feeling I should reframe from posting a response but I would like to know the sources of this "information"/ idea?
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RE: one percent theory - 7/13/2008 2:53:08 AM
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I don't know if I'd stretch it that far. Cheney's "1% = 100%" bit is certainly a little extreme but other than that it's basically just a version of the worst-case-scenario-based strategic thinking our countries have been using for a long time. I'm pretty sure Cheney didn't really mean to say that everyone not 100% with the U.S. will be treated as 100% against the U.S. If he did, obviously the State Department and the Pentagon haven't been listening to him.
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RE: one percent theory - 7/13/2008 4:16:56 AM
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TaoPoohBear
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Leon_Figg3
I have a feeling I should reframe from posting a response but I would like to know the sources of this "information"/ idea?
Dick Cheney - If there's a 1% chance that Pakistani scientists are helping al-Qaeda build or develop a nuclear weapon, we have to treat it as a certainty in terms of our response. It's not about our analysis ... It's about our response.
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The One Percent doctrine (also called the Cheney doctrine) was created in November 2001 (no exact date is given) during a briefing given by then-CIA Director George Tenet and an un-named briefer to U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice in response to worries that a Pakistani scientist was offering nuclear weapons expertise to Al Qaeda after the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attack. Responding to the thought that Al Qaeda might want to acquire a nuclear weapon, Cheney observed that the US had to confront a new type of threat, a "low-probability, high-impact event" as he described it.
If you don't trust Wikipedia, there's ABC News -
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In his heralded new book, "The One Percent Doctrine," Ron Suskind writes that Vice President Dick Cheney forcefully stated that the war on terror empowered the Bush administration to act without the need for evidence or extensive analysis.
Suskind describes the Cheney doctrine as follows: "Even if there's just a 1 percent chance of the unimaginable coming due, act as if it is a certainty. It's not about 'our analysis,' as Cheney said. It's about 'our response.' … Justified or not, fact-based or not, 'our response' is what matters. As to 'evidence,' the bar was set so low that the word itself almost didn't apply."
Or the Washington Post
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This "Cheney Doctrine" let Bush evade analytic debate, Suskind writes, and "rely on impulse and improvisation to a degree that was without precedent for a modern president." But that approach constricted the mission of the intelligence and counterterrorism professionals whose point of view dominates this book. Many of them came to believe, Suskind reports, that "their jobs were not to help shape policy, but to affirm it." (Some of them nicknamed Cheney "Edgar," as in Edgar Bergen -- casting the president as the ventriloquist's dummy.)
The last ones the most informative.
But it's old news, Frontline at PBS did a story a few years back about the crazy old geezer -
The Dark Side
AND you can get over 250,000 Google hits just by typing in "Dick Cheney's paranoia".
Oh, that's right! I've read (on this Forum & elsewhere) that the Washington Post, PBS & Google have liberal agendas too.
(1.6 million Google hits for "Conservative paranoia")
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RE: one percent theory - 7/13/2008 10:22:33 AM
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(1.6 million Google hits for "Conservative paranoia")
And 1.76 million hits for "Liberal paranoia". Ha ha....
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RE: one percent theory - 7/13/2008 10:25:46 AM
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Sophie11
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ORIGINAL: fiat_lux
I don't know if I'd stretch it that far. Cheney's "1% = 100%" bit is certainly a little extreme but other than that it's basically just a version of the worst-case-scenario-based strategic thinking our countries have been using for a long time. I'm pretty sure Cheney didn't really mean to say that everyone not 100% with the U.S. will be treated as 100% against the U.S. If he did, obviously the State Department and the Pentagon haven't been listening to him.
I agree with you fiat. That hasn't been how the US has been treating the world so I see no need to worry. I would imagine it is simply a worst-case-scenario planning just like you say.
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RE: one percent theory - 7/14/2008 9:12:40 AM
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TaoPoohBear
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Sophie11
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ORIGINAL: TaoPoohBear
(1.6 million Google hits for "Conservative paranoia")
And 1.76 million hits for "Liberal paranoia". Ha ha....
I got 1.98 million hits, perhaps it's growing daily.
In that case, it should break 2 Mil before Bush leaves office.
3 Mil if he attacks Iran.
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RE: one percent theory - 7/14/2008 9:16:07 AM
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Sophie11
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ORIGINAL: TaoPoohBear
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ORIGINAL: Sophie11
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ORIGINAL: TaoPoohBear
(1.6 million Google hits for "Conservative paranoia")
And 1.76 million hits for "Liberal paranoia". Ha ha....
I got 1.98 million hits, perhaps it's growing daily.
In that case, it should break 2 Mil before Bush leaves office.
3 Mil if he attacks Iran.
Hmm. I just googled and only got 1.48. I don't think it's reliable to go on the google #. But it is fun! 
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